MLS - September 24 - Miami (CF)

[LionNYC]

First and foremost the tifo was fantastic. Alonso has a hurt hamstring. Don't understand the tactics on this one. Even with the smaller field, Miami diced us. That didn't happen this year. Does James Sands just make that much of a difference against Miami?

In all, the game didn't matter much. But that's just a terrible performance and I pray it doesn't ruin the vibes that have been building.

Furthermore, it’s insufferable the atmosphere in the stadium. It’s why I hate him in the league. It’s a circus, it’s ruins a home game. Would love to see these guys in the playoffs and get a sweet win of revenge.

 

[Shwafta]

Oh I might have also shwafta'd the second goal.

I was like "I guess everyone wants to see a Messi goal. If Miami do score again, at least let it be Messi" and then it was literally a minute later.

 

[LIexpat]

I thought the script was for us to play the ball over their aging defense and out run them …..

 

[moogoo]

First and foremost the tifo was fantastic. Alonso has a hurt hamstring. Don't understand the tactics on this one. Even with the smaller field, Miami diced us. That didn't happen this year. Does James Sands just make that much of a difference against Miami?

In all, the game didn't matter much. But that's just a terrible performance and I pray it doesn't ruin the vibes that have been building.

Furthermore, it’s insufferable the atmosphere in the stadium. It’s why I hate him in the league. It’s a circus, it’s ruins a home game. Would love to see these guys in the playoffs and get a sweet win of revenge.

We lost the midfield game. Both perea and O'Neill were just not good enough and then maxi was not very mobile. Making martins have to step out of position and then they cut us open.

Sands is better than O'Neill. He also stays home more and protects the back line. O'Neill likes to get forward too much for a 6 imo.

 

[ZYanksRule]

In all, the game didn't matter much. But that's just a terrible performance and I pray it doesn't ruin the vibes that have been building.

The game did matter quite a bit -- they jump ahead of us for oen of the top-4 spaces, and with their games in hand it probably makes it a lot harder for us to be Top-4.

We had our chances, didn't take them, and got sliced open. Shame it happened against them, but hopefully we can rebound against the Red Bulls and put a knife in their postseason streak.

 

[gbservis]

We lost the midfield game. Both perea and O'Neill were just not good enough and then maxi was not very mobile. Making martins have to step out of position and then they cut us open.

Sands is better than O'Neill. He also stays home more and protects the back line. O'Neill likes to get forward too much for a 6 imo.

I think this version of Miami is considerably better. The early Messi-era teams looked like Busquets, Alba, and Messi trying to do their thing while surrounded by complementary players who just weren’t at their level. Now with DePaul, Silvetti, Falcó, and Rodríguez, all added in the last year, the roster looks like a clear upgrade. It’s been purposely built to win, stacked with talent, and that gap was obvious last night.

This wasn’t a tactics issue; it was a roster issue, and more broadly, an ambition gap between the two clubs. Miami is rolling out stars. Meanwhile, Son has 6 goals in 7 games for LAFC, and Sims is giving interviews acting like signing one of the top players from Spain’s second division as our 2nd DP was some kind of recruitment master class. This was a roster loss, not a tactical failure by Pascal.

 

[canchon]

I will gladly sell my tickets to the home match next year. What a miserable event to go to as an nycfc fan, the crowd was insufferable. I’ll take the $250 and move on.

Sold my tickets earlier in the year - not only are my Citi seats in an awful location, someone paid a ridiculous amount for them. Thanks for subsidizing my season tickets and I got to skip the Messi fawning.

 

[FootyLovin]

One positive. I thought Ojeda showed great aggression. He really seems to be improving rapidly of late.

 

[twsj91]

I sold mine at a loss to family friends who really wanted to go. Instead, I went with my daughter on a 4 day trip to Pittsburgh. I couldn’t be happier.

One day for every goal given up!

 

[gbservis]

One positive. I thought Ojeda showed great aggression. He really seems to be improving rapidly of late.

Ojeda can absolutely cook people out on the wing. I assume we are finally seeing the stuff the coaching staff was saying he could do in practice. He was drawing DePaul or Busquets over to help once he established himself as a threat, opening up the middle. I've been wondering if he's getting mentoring from Nico. Ojeda broke out when he started playing more direct, like Nico, and less slow give and go like Maxi. It could just be a coincidence, but the timing is certainly interesting.

 

[CCMore]

Maybe it’s my bias, but it felt like Miami was getting every call and anytime our boys got close to them they’d fall over as if made of glass and the red would blow the whistle. The fouls were 22 to 9. That seems a bit egregious to me for how soft the calls were for the herons and how there was some pretty obvious no calls against us. Is our team really that more chippy than our opponent last night? Cause damn, it felt like we couldn’t buy a call last night.

 

[GratefulDawg]

Maybe it’s my bias, but it felt like Miami was getting every call and anytime our boys got close to them they’d fall over as if made of glass and the red would blow the whistle. The fouls were 22 to 9. That seems a bit egregious to me for how soft the calls were for the herons and how there was some pretty obvious no calls against us. Is our team really that more chippy than our opponent last night? Cause damn, it felt like we couldn’t buy a call last night.

Last night showed me why people think De Paul is a c u n t. He was constantly jabbering in the ref's ear, and I think it had an effect. Additionally, our guys need to be a bit tougher. I think we flop a bit too much.

That game opened back up the argument that we've had over the years - Is our management serious about building a winner that will put butts in seats? The Miami plastics were annoying as hell, but New Yorkers love stars more than they feel a connection to their local team.

 

[moogoo]

I think this version of Miami is considerably better. The early Messi-era teams looked like Busquets, Alba, and Messi trying to do their thing while surrounded by complementary players who just weren’t at their level. Now with DePaul, Silvetti, Falcó, and Rodríguez, all added in the last year, the roster looks like a clear upgrade. It’s been purposely built to win, stacked with talent, and that gap was obvious last night.

This wasn’t a tactics issue; it was a roster issue, and more broadly, an ambition gap between the two clubs. Miami is rolling out stars. Meanwhile, Son has 6 goals in 7 games for LAFC, and Sims is giving interviews acting like signing one of the top players from Spain’s second division as our 2nd DP was some kind of recruitment master class. This was a roster loss, not a tactical failure by Pascal.

I agree there's a talent gap. That was pretty much what I said. O'Neill and Perea are not good enough.

We didn't have Martinez at 100% to start and threaten.. and overall the team was tired and probably not as aggressive as they would have been had they been fresher.

Losing is ok. But I still don't think we should have lost 4-0 and a full strength squad with fresh legs could definitely win against Miami. They might be better that before especially with DePaul, but they are not invincible.

 

[CCMore]

I am a relatively new Atleti fan. I started following them a year ago. And I was excited to see DePaul live last night cause of the connection. I swear he acted like he was made of glass. I remember a call that he won where he grabbed his face in pain before Perea even touched him, and when Perea finally did barely get him, DePaul was on the ground writhing in pain like he was sucker punched. And the ref called it for Miami. It pissed me off so much and I don’t have any interest anymore in a player who wants to play that way.

 

[Gene]

My 2 cents worth(less).

I haven't had the chance to watch the post game presser to see what's what, but I don't think Martins was injured. He looked stunned that he was coming off and was uber pissed as he ran off the pitch.

Just my observation.

 

[joe]

My 2 cents worth(less).

I haven't had the chance to watch the post game presser to see what's what, but I don't think Martins was injured. He looked stunned that he was coming off and was uber pissed as he ran off the pitch.

Just my observation.

Wolff was mad as well, I think they were all tactical subs

 

[JayH]

We were outplayed by a much more talented, deeper team. And Pascal had a really off night which made it worse. A lopsided result makes sense.

 

[moogoo]

Jansen press conf:

Martinez had a hamstring issue (not a new issue but seems to have flared up more before this game) so didn't start. Medical team recommended 20-30 mins max.
Martins came off for fatigue/rotation and Jansen wanted to take more risk and have more attacking personnel in possession.

Martinez questionable (as of the press conf) for saturday.

overall - thought we lost intensity in possession in 2nd half and our level of quality/accuracy was not good enough this game.

 

[Revfugee]

We were outplayed by a much more talented, deeper team. And Pascal had a really off night which made it worse. A lopsided result makes sense.

I think this wass a confluence of multiple things which is why I’m not too upset.
1) fixture congestion causing rotation requirements
2) pascal stepping out of his comfort zone, gambling a bit, and failing whereas it had worked for the last two matches.
3) talent gap. With that roster really nobody in the league should be touching Miami.
4) ref. He couldn’t have saved us but Miami were getting the call and we weren’t.
5) missed chances/bad luck: Nico made a mockery of their back line and if he finishes, the game state completely shifts. To a lesser extent Martins could have finished that free header and we would have been cruising.

Only item 3 is structural. We could have won last night. On to the next. If we beat NJ handily this one will be easy to forget.

 

[Gotham Gator]

It was pretty even before the Martins sub.