Gio Reyna is listed as our top prospect...
http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/30/parchman-every-mls-clubs-top-academy-prospect
http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/30/parchman-every-mls-clubs-top-academy-prospect
NYCFC Academy - General Discussion
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Anyone seen young Reyna play ? I've often wondered if having a famous sporting father is a blessing or a curse. On one hand they get privileges and more opportunities, but on another they are under the microscope, constantly being compared and under suspicion of nepotism
In this very thread are highlight videos of him scoring goals and making assists for our academy. Probably only a couple pages back.
Or are you asking if we've seen Claudio as a teenager to compare?
Except for the part where they play them or make themselves even remotely attractive as a place to remain past a first contract. See, eg, Emerson Hyndman and Moussa Dembele (Celtic version).
Sands and Gio, you mean?
I think you are spot on with that. It's no better than a coin flip with Sands at this point, even though I think he's already decided to go, as I've pointed out elsewhere before. The timeline is too easy for him for that not to be the case. The club really should have made him a godfather offer just to capture some GAM when he leaves. Dammit.
Agreed that Sands is a coin flip.
But Reyna will only be 15 next preseason. Even if he's an even better prospect, we may be more likely to sign him simply because there is more time between now and when he turns 18. He's almost 2.5 years younger than Sands.
Potential Reyna Schedule:
2017 - 14 y.o. in Academy
2018 - 15 y.o. in Academy or with First Team
2019 - 16 y.o. with First Team
2020 - 17 y.o. with First Team
2021 - 18 y.o. goes to Europe (actually November of 2020 he turns 18)
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Just a shame that we don't have a USL team right now. Sands would definitely be signed if we did.
So when a club puts a kid through their academy for a few years and the kid then signs elsewhere, does the club get nothing for its investment at all?
2018 would be a perfect USL year for a guy like Gio.
I don't know many of the details, but I know there has been a fight over "solidarity payments" in the US. MLS doesn't want to pay them to independent academies or something, so it would be rich if MLS starts demanding solidarity payments for *their* prospects.
There's an ongoing lawsuit about this, with Yedlin, M.Bradley, and one other player specifically listed as the reason the youth clubs should be owed money. Can't remember the case name.
Edit: just saw S sbrylski beat me to it.
Older but informative article from a quick google search:
https://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/01/25/training-compensation-solidarity-us-soccer-mls#
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sbrylski and
Ulrich. I knew there was something like that both in place and in dispute, but couldn't remember the terminology or any details. Now that I read that and it's coming back to me, I also thought maybe part of the dispute centered on the fact that independent US development clubs are pay-to-play, so they have already been paid. But the MLS academies are not pay-to-play, as far as I know, so that could be a distinction, although I wouldn't expect the independents to just agree
Ulrich. I knew there was something like that both in place and in dispute, but couldn't remember the terminology or any details. Now that I read that and it's coming back to me, I also thought maybe part of the dispute centered on the fact that independent US development clubs are pay-to-play, so they have already been paid. But the MLS academies are not pay-to-play, as far as I know, so that could be a distinction, although I wouldn't expect the independents to just agree
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Yes. I think both go. One is a definite. The other we'll find out this summer.
That's not to say they both don't come back to MLS at some point, but I think both are gone.
If they come back to MLS in let say a decade plus, do we own their rights then? Can we at least get some GAM if they want to play for a different team? (if this fakakta system even still exists by then)
Judge actually threw out the lawsuit yesterday.
http://www.espnfc.us/united-states/...s-class-action-against-bradley-dempsey-yedlin
By no means settles the case. The real action will take place once FIFA puts out their decision and how US Soccer/MLS reacts to it.
Most are free but there are teams like DC United that are pay to play: http://www.dcunited.com/academy/faqThanks S sbrylski and
Others have hybrid arrangements with pay to play clubs like we do.
I would think that Pay/Play kills any chance of a youth org getting a piece of the pie. That would be double dipping - it's not like my universities get a piece of my salary, because I paid them to enrich my skill set and knowledge base.
An all-included Academy should get some form of compensation, but those terms should be spelled out in the Academy contract that's signed prior to a player starting there.
I'd love it if the cost of my law school education was tied to my salary. I don't think the school would be very happy with me though, lol.
