NYCFC Academy - General Discussion
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Squabs up 2-0 in the 69' (70 minute matches).
Looks like we're heading to the Premier Championship (2nd Tier, missed out of the 1st Tier in qualifying earlier in the year). We look really good and we're the youngest team. 0 goals allowed in the tournament.
Looks like we're heading to the Premier Championship (2nd Tier, missed out of the 1st Tier in qualifying earlier in the year). We look really good and we're the youngest team. 0 goals allowed in the tournament.
Gio Reyna getting headlines...
http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/04/14/nycfc-academys-giovanni-reyna-quickly-making-name-himself
http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/04/14/nycfc-academys-giovanni-reyna-quickly-making-name-himself
Youngest team in the tournament and the last MLS Academy team still playing in the tournament. Really a fantastic job by the lads and their coaches.
I was able to watch 15-20 minutes of a lot of the U16 games. Apart from being successful and winning the Premier trophy, the youth team did a tremendous job at playing NYCFC style -- 4-3-3, possession, on the ground, playing out of the back, combination play. Just like the senior team plays very attractive soccer, the youth team played extremely attractive flowing soccer. It was very very impressive.
The team was extremely young. This was a U-17 tournament, so other top academy teams were entirely (or almost entirely) made up of 16 and 17 year olds. We had 3 14 year olds starting.
In the big picture, the Academy team showed me what the Club is doing right with its tactical and developmental approach. Our style of play makes is not only prepping players to join the senior team in MLS, but it is highlighting their skills in a way that maximizes the chances our players will be highly regarded by Clubs in bigger leagues that bring teams to the GA (Real Madrid, etc.) and put our youth players on their scouting radar screens early.
I predict the Club is going to be receiving some substantial transfer fees for players I was watching for many years to come and that their success is going to be fueled by the quality of our style of play and coaching.
The team was extremely young. This was a U-17 tournament, so other top academy teams were entirely (or almost entirely) made up of 16 and 17 year olds. We had 3 14 year olds starting.
In the big picture, the Academy team showed me what the Club is doing right with its tactical and developmental approach. Our style of play makes is not only prepping players to join the senior team in MLS, but it is highlighting their skills in a way that maximizes the chances our players will be highly regarded by Clubs in bigger leagues that bring teams to the GA (Real Madrid, etc.) and put our youth players on their scouting radar screens early.
I predict the Club is going to be receiving some substantial transfer fees for players I was watching for many years to come and that their success is going to be fueled by the quality of our style of play and coaching.
thats the question being asked all across the US ....here you cant really sign many of them to pro contracts since then they wont be able to go to college as student athletes. but on other hand you also risk losing them to a club overseas ( if they are really special) so you may lose either way.
Unless the kid clearly does not want college and is good enough to be pro in the US
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Sands named to U-17 USMNT squad for the CONCACAF championship
https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...yer-roster-for-2017-concacaf-u17-championship
https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...yer-roster-for-2017-concacaf-u17-championship
99% probability this plays out for us this summer. Around July.
I don't think I am totally up to speed on transfer rules, but the way it is supposed to work is that part of each transfer fee is reserved for the Clubs that develop players. If anybody remembers the DeAndre Yedlin transfer fee, there was an issue with US Soccer and his youth club with USSoccer saying the youth club doesn't get the transfer fee, US Soccer does.
My assumption is that US Soccer and MLS clubs have an agreement in place so that the MLS academies would get the youth cub share of the fee in a Yedlin transfer. I am also going to assume based on the quality of our FO that our Academy has a deal in place with its feeder youth clubs that the feeder club gets a piece of that fee (from NYCFC, not US Soccer).
That's what I think the worst case scenario looks like. The best case is we sign them and have control over the transfer process. My impression from following our Sands situation is that the Club works very actively with parents and players to plot out smart soccer career choices.
Hopefully somebody who knows more about transfers chimes in to correct any mistakes in this post.
What? Any parent who trusted the club to make their decisions for them needs to be knocked in the head.
My impression is most parents know that, and that's why we don't have Sands signed now. Combination of his parents being wise to the situation and us being cheap asses.
i mean how much annually do you think he should be offered? ....he still 16. we giving him the league minium (what is it 60K? ) or 100K right away?
So here is a very real example of the issue with American soccer. You have a player who is not eligible to sign a professional contract. Yet a team in Europe is offering him a training deal.
What can we do?
The Generation Adidas program is designed to confront this. If you sign for MLS, you get college paid for, and that applies whether you choose to go before starting professionally, after, or a combination of the two.
I would have thought we could really open up the pocketbook since he would have been our only homegrown and we could use our homegrown budget on him.
i dont know what the budget is....but i also think its important to know how much we gonna give him. Because this will set a standard going forward. If we give him say 100K then all homwgrown will be expecting that coming in and we know thats not possible since not all players coming from the academy will be that good.
as for generation adidas....i thought that was was college being paid for if they go back to college while playing ( of after) since i know many draft kids are not even seniors when they get drafted to MLS
EDIT: All in all i think its the parents having last say and may want him to go to college even if we shell out good money in an offer.
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Just because you now have $500k available in "free" cap space alotted to Homegrown players now, that doesn't mean that teams don't have to pay those salaries. This is still a business. If NYCFC don't think James Sands is worth the $200k (just making up a number) that his parents would demand he make to turn down college, etc, then guess what? They won't pay him.
Purely a hypothetical.
Purely a hypothetical.
