MagnusPax
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Crappy D coupled with ineffectual defensive mid spells NO PLAYOFFS. Theres holes all over this ship my friend.
NYCFC Players Wanted Thread
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Heh, to reference another thread, I might be classified as "unnaturally obsessed" with Pirlo. A defense is doomed without a midfield / offense that can take the pressure off. In the game against Orlando our ball retention was fucking non-existent. I think that's what Pirlo gives us. I agree that it's not enough to save our defense tho. So perhaps we only disagree on whether Pirlo makes an ineffectual defensive mid.
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Pirlo can hold the ball, but I think MLS players might be too aggressive or athletic for him to keep it or pass it to lesser players. I'm okay with Pirlo being out there, as long as we have a real d-mid to help (not Jacobsen who tried really hard, A for effort) and a not so-useless defense. Plug those holes and now we're talking.
There was a stretch where we kept losing 1-2, 0-1, 0-2 in the earlier parts of the season, and everyone was harping about the defense. The fact of the matter is that we scored 24 goals in 21 games without Pirlo, and 24 in 13 games with Pirlo. Pirlo has worked very well for our offense, and Friday showed us how stagnant the ball gets when he isn't in the lineup. I'll take the opportunity to score more, which is the only way you're going to win games, than pray for a Kwame rebound every game to hope it salvages us a point.
He wasn't what the roster needed, no, but if you can get Pirlo, you get g-------d Pirlo, and you adjust your system to fit him.
He would be an interesting high-profile signing, but I'd be worried about signing someone who had underperformed so badly at his last two clubs. Even if it doesn't make him a bad player, it can weigh heavily on the mind if you know you're really struggling to get your goal-scoring boots on and things are just not working out for you. A new club might change everything, or it might just reinforce your negative thoughts.
If you watch Juve, they miss him dearly. I know they lost some very good players, but have added some very good players. There is nobody to get the ball to Morata & Dybala in a creative manner. It's the unmeasurable intangibles that make Pirlo who he is. It may not be evident in the surface. Give the guy a real off season. Our problems are not Pirlo...its speed on the wings, defense, another scoring option, a real DM.
Edited to add...a healthy Shelton could make a big difference with this offense. We lack speed and strength.
Edited to add...a healthy Shelton could make a big difference with this offense. We lack speed and strength.
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That's right, I keep forgetting about TT. Him and Shelton make this a different team.
I'd really love to get Victor Wanyama from Southampton, pipe dream though.
It would depend where NYCFC is on the discovery list.
I just looked it up and if Vela comes to MLS, Colorado has rights of first refusal and if they pass he his rights go to Chicago. I'm not sure who's third (no, who's on first?)
Is there any place to find out who's who on that discovery list?
I just looked it up and if Vela comes to MLS, Colorado has rights of first refusal and if they pass he his rights go to Chicago. I'm not sure who's third (no, who's on first?)
Is there any place to find out who's who on that discovery list?
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So I just watched a video from the Football Daily on YouTube and apparently Yaya Toure is open to a move to the Big Apple. He would see out his Manchester City contract and come on a free transfer in 2017. I think that would be an amazing move, he's one of the best box to box midfielders in the EPL and he'd only be 34. Thoughts?
The discovery list is meaningless for guys like Vela. In theory Colorado and Chicago get first shot if he's on their list but in reality if a player like Vela says to the MLS "I'm only coming if I can play for teams X,Y, or Z" the MLS will always work it out. They aren't turning him away by telling him sorry it's Colorado or no where. Whatever team gets him will have to give some cash to whatever team holds his rights but that's about it. The whole rule is pointless, it might work a little with lower level players but with high profile guys it's totally pointless. Good news for us is that 9 times out of 10 we are going to be on players short list of the teams they want to play for because they want to live in NYC.
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Not if MLS forces NYCFC to trade Poku to Colorado for him. MLS made Chicago trade Chad Barrett to Toronto for McBride because McB said no to Tfc. At the time Barret was Chicagos top scorer.
It's not all smoke and mirrors, most the time it's really rules and enforcement.
Shoot me first.
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