NYCFC Players Wanted Thread

[JGarrettLieb]

Enough that France wouldn't take him. You understate the duration for which he's been an asshole. It's his age. Whatever that is. Still would take him.

You've forced me to try and objectively reevaluate Samir Nasri as a possible player in MLS. Stated differently, is Nasri's skill worth the 2 red cards a season he would find, and 2-3 yellow card accumulation suspensions.

I posit this kind of number of games suspended because other teams know that he's a hothead and would target him to the ends of the earth.

Honestly, yeah the psycho is probably still worth it. He's 29 and regularly starts on Champions League teams as a key player. Not only that he can play an out and out #10 in a league that is a feast for #10's. The best MLS CB's have positioning deficiencies, and frankly do not really know how to deal with the ball at their feet; Chanot possibly excepted.

Even serving 6 games suspended a year he's probably going to score or create at an equal rate to the 3 months of Lampard we had last year, except he still possesses real speed.

Uggh, I've argued myself back into #NasriNYCFC again. Even if he is an unstable idiot.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

You've forced me to try and objectively reevaluate Samir Nasri as a possible player in MLS. Stated differently, is Nasri's skill worth the 2 red cards a season he would find, and 2-3 yellow card accumulation suspensions.

I posit this kind of number of games suspended because other teams know that he's a hothead and would target him to the ends of the earth.

Honestly, yeah the psycho is probably still worth it. He's 29 and regularly starts on Champions League teams as a key player. Not only that he can play an out and out #10 in a league that is a feast for #10's. The best MLS CB's have positioning deficiencies, and frankly do not really know how to deal with the ball at their feet; Chanot possibly excepted.

Even serving 6 games suspended a year he's probably going to score or create at an equal rate to the 3 months of Lampard we had last year, except he still possesses real speed.

Uggh, I've argued myself back into #NasriNYCFC again. Even if he is an unstable idiot.

Well done, young padawan. Soon, you too shall be able to intuit these insights.

 

[Kjbert]

The guy that fits better who was on the pitch today would be Stefan Jovetic

 

[QuigrNYCFC]

Christian Fuchs has an apartment on the upper west side. Just sayin. He could be our RJ Allen replacement.

 

[LionNYC]

Christian Fuchs has an apartment on the upper west side. Just sayin. He could be our RJ Allen replacement.

Well if Leicester makes the Champions League final and loses, he's definitely coming here...

 

[Midas Mulligan]

Christian Fuchs has an apartment on the upper west side. Just sayin. He could be our RJ Allen replacement.

This is something that seems more and more likely given how we've spent and didn't spend. It kind of crossed my mind when everywhere got an upgrade except there.

If Leicester go down, I would put the odds well over 50% it happens this summer. If they stay up, I still think it's a coin flip. Hopefully, he has some gambling debts we can cover to keep him out of the DP role.

But seriously, it sounds ridiculous to say this about a fullback, but adding him might make me think we're MLS Cup favorites barring major injury. He gives us another true quarterback and that's something no one else in the league has from a fullback position, and something almost every really strong team in the world has at least one of (MCFC excluded).

Now that I'm on this train of thought, I'm going JGarrettLieb on it and convincing myself that's where at least some action is coming in the summer - likely either with Fuchs or, AHABS, Zabaleta or the like. It's the only thing I can figure as to why we improved everywhere except what was probably the sorest sore thumb.

ETA: assuming I'm not crazy, who would you guys prefer, Fuchs or Zabaleta? I think I'd take Fuchs given age and need and his explicit positivity about playing in NYC.

(Side note: I bet Zabs is a possibility. I could honestly see LFC selling Clyne to MCFC given the news coming out about Alexander-Arnold challenging to take the #1 spot and past reported inquiries. And it's a dead certainty if it's not Clyne, MC will buy someone projected to start there.)

 

[SebastianBlue]

This is something that seems more and more likely given how we've spent and didn't spend. It kind of crossed my mind when everywhere got an upgrade except there.

If Leicester go down, I would put the odds well over 50% it happens this summer. If they stay up, I still think it's a coin flip. Hopefully, he has some gambling debts we can cover to keep him out of the DP role.

But seriously, it sounds ridiculous to say this about a fullback, but adding him might make me think we're MLS Cup favorites barring major injury. He gives us another true quarterback and that's something no one else in the league has from a fullback position, and something almost every really strong team in the world has at least one of (MCFC excluded).

Now that I'm on this train of thought, I'm going JGarrettLieb on it and convincing myself that's where at least some action is coming in the summer - likely either with Fuchs or, AHABS, Zabaleta or the like. It's the only thing I can figure as to why we improved everywhere except what was probably the sorest sore thumb.

ETA: assuming I'm not crazy, who would you guys prefer, Fuchs or Zabaleta? I think I'd take Fuchs given age and need and his explicit positivity about playing in NYC.

(Side note: I bet Zabs is a possibility. I could honestly see LFC selling Clyne to MCFC given the news coming out about Alexander-Arnold challenging to take the #1 spot and past reported inquiries. And it's a dead certainty if it's not Clyne, MC will buy someone projected to start there.)

City bias aside, I would take Zabaleta as I think he is actually the all around better fullback for the MLS as it is now (defending and attacking). Apart from one glorious season Fuchs has shown some deficiencies, namely positional awareness and one-v-one situations. He is the better of the two in attack now but unless we want another Mattaritta on a middling day, I'm not sure that's what we're looking for. I don't think his creativity or finishing is necessarily better but he does have more pace and better crossing ability. However, Zab provides consistency, real defensive medle, and brilliantly timed overlapping/middle-slanted runs that tear defenses apart. He often doesn't get the assist or goal but he contributes to the chaos in the attacking third and helps calm things in the defensive third. He would link very well with Harrison, as Jack has the same instincts as Sterling (take your man on, put in the cross, track back to cover when the fullback has advanced). Maxi would also have a field day chipping balls over rival back lines for Zab's runs and Villa would likely get 4 or 5 more goals a year from Zab's patented slant run and cut back low cross in the box. Beyond all that, he is extremely passionate and could mold younger fullbacks into players that would dominate the currently brittle MLS defences that are absolutely allergic to dynamic movement.

All that said, there's nothing to say we couldn't get both of them if we could keep them under DP salaries since they play on either wing. I am not sure Zab would go to NYC if he leaves MC this summer, though—I think he may be thinking of a return to Spain or a final chapter in Italy. I'm also not sure Fuchs really is committed to coming to NYC just yet, either. If Leicester get relegated there is going to be a fire sale and he and few others will get to pick their path. I get the feeling most will stay in the PL, with perhaps Mahrez going to la Liga and Huth to prison.

By the way, I wouldn't want Nasri anywhere near us—he's past his best by date and we could do much better and younger.

Oh, I also don't want Clyde at MC but that's another discussion entirely.

 

[sbrylski]

This is something that seems more and more likely given how we've spent and didn't spend. It kind of crossed my mind when everywhere got an upgrade except there.

If Leicester go down, I would put the odds well over 50% it happens this summer. If they stay up, I still think it's a coin flip. Hopefully, he has some gambling debts we can cover to keep him out of the DP role.

But seriously, it sounds ridiculous to say this about a fullback, but adding him might make me think we're MLS Cup favorites barring major injury. He gives us another true quarterback and that's something no one else in the league has from a fullback position, and something almost every really strong team in the world has at least one of (MCFC excluded).

Now that I'm on this train of thought, I'm going JGarrettLieb on it and convincing myself that's where at least some action is coming in the summer - likely either with Fuchs or, AHABS, Zabaleta or the like. It's the only thing I can figure as to why we improved everywhere except what was probably the sorest sore thumb.

ETA: assuming I'm not crazy, who would you guys prefer, Fuchs or Zabaleta? I think I'd take Fuchs given age and need and his explicit positivity about playing in NYC.

(Side note: I bet Zabs is a possibility. I could honestly see LFC selling Clyne to MCFC given the news coming out about Alexander-Arnold challenging to take the #1 spot and past reported inquiries. And it's a dead certainty if it's not Clyne, MC will buy someone projected to start there.)

Both. Sell Mata.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

City bias aside, I would take Zabaleta as I think he is actually the all around better fullback for the MLS as it is now (defending and attacking). Apart from one glorious season Fuchs has shown some deficiencies, namely positional awareness and one-v-one situations. He is the better of the two in attack now but unless we want another Mattaritta on a middling day, I'm not sure that's what we're looking for. I don't think his creativity or finishing is necessarily better but he does have more pace and better crossing ability. However, Zab provides consistency, real defensive medle, and brilliantly timed overlapping/middle-slanted runs that tear defenses apart. He often doesn't get the assist or goal but he contributes to the chaos in the attacking third and helps calm things in the defensive third. He would link very well with Harrison, as Jack has the same instincts as Sterling (take your man on, put in the cross, track back to cover when the fullback has advanced). Maxi would also have a field day chipping balls over rival back lines for Zab's runs and Villa would likely get 4 or 5 more goals a year from Zab's patented slant run and cut back low cross in the box. Beyond all that, he is extremely passionate and could mold younger fullbacks into players that would dominate the currently brittle MLS defences that are absolutely allergic to dynamic movement.

All that said, there's nothing to say we couldn't get both of them if we could keep them under DP salaries since they play on either wing. I am not sure Zab would go to NYC if he leaves MC this summer, though—I think he may be thinking of a return to Spain or a final chapter in Italy. I'm also not sure Fuchs really is committed to coming to NYC just yet, either. If Leicester get relegated there is going to be a fire sale and he and few others will get to pick their path. I get the feeling most will stay in the PL, with perhaps Mahrez going to la Liga and Huth to prison.

By the way, I wouldn't want Nasri anywhere near us—he's past his best by date and we could do much better and younger.

Oh, I also don't want Clyde at MC but that's another discussion entirely.

Completely lost the plot with them being different sided players. I mean, I was sitting here picturing them both playing in my mind and even had them on opposite sides and it still didn't register. oh well, both it is, I guess.

I like Zabs more as a player, but I was thinking he didn't have much left. Obviously, I'd be happy to take him and we can take all that I said about Fuchs and apply there - except the direct NYC connection of a wife who lives and works here already, etc.

I don't really think of Fuchs as being as attacking as Zabaleta, but I don't watch Leicester a lot. Honestly, they bore the hell out of me.

 

[bxsully]

The one I thing I remember from seeing Fuchs play last year was that he has a good long throw in which can be a very effective weapon on our tiny field as we've seen used against us before. Not sure Viera would care to implement it though as he may rather just maintain possession then chuck in the box and hope we get a head on it.

 

[Ulrich]

The one I thing I remember from seeing Fuchs play last year was that he has a good long throw in which can be a very effective weapon on our tiny field as we've seen used against us before. Not sure Viera would care to implement it though as he may rather just maintain possession then chuck in the box and hope we get a head on it.

I'm sure if we're close enough to the goal for a long throw to be effective, PV will have the thrower launch it back towards the center line so that the FB can laterally pass across the field to the CB and then on to the other FB who in turn sends it back to the GK.

 

[Kjbert]

Can Fuchs play as a RB? Some players only are good with one foot. I don't know enough about him to have my own opinion there.

Zabaleta is the better player by a country mile. I would prefer him for a number of reasons. He can also slot into a CM role in a pinch. Or maybe he can take over for Pirlo in the midfield. Not entirely a stretch

 

[sbrylski]

Can Fuchs play as a RB? Some players only are good with one foot. I don't know enough about him to have my own opinion there.

Zabaleta is the better player by a country mile. I would prefer him for a number of reasons. He can also slot into a CM role in a pinch. Or maybe he can take over for Pirlo in the midfield. Not entirely a stretch

Great point on sliding him to CDM. I'm reading that as Zabaleta ages, he's losing pace and becoming less effective when trying to recover defensively. As a sitting CDM, we could take advantage of his passing abilities. He would be an even better Iraola.

 

[Kjbert]

Great point on sliding him to CDM. I'm reading that as Zabaleta ages, he's losing pace and becoming less effective when trying to recover defensively. As a sitting CDM, we could take advantage of his passing abilities. He would be an even better Iraola.

I try and watch Man City because I find them to play entertaining soccer. I don't really focus on Zabaleta individually, but when he does play, I get the sense that he is an incredibly intelligent player. He's more athletic than Iraola ever was, but I have also seen him sit in while playing in one of those funky Pep formations and pick teams apart with his passing.

 

[Yankeedom]

We don't want Zabs; he's toast. (And yes, I do know he's collected a goal and an assist in his last couple of appearances)

 

[Seth]

However, Zab provides consistency, real defensive medle, and brilliantly timed overlapping/middle-slanted runs that tear defenses apart. He often doesn't get the assist or goal but he contributes to the chaos in the attacking third and helps calm things in the defensive third.

Yes yes yes all of this. Said it before and may possibly say it again but I think he'd be amazing to have on our team.

 

[Kjbert]

We don't want Zabs; he's toast. (And yes, I do know he's collected a goal and an assist in his last couple of appearances)

Fine. What about Sagna?

 

[Yankeedom]

Fine. What about Sagna?

Sagna definitely has more left in the tank, but he's risky.

What scares me the most is that at the age of 34, Sagna has been playing competitive soccer for about two years straight with practically no breaks, due to club (has logged some heavy minutes with City the last two seasons, when healthy) and country call-ups (last summer's Euros).

He's been declining anyway and he's headed for that cliff.

 

[Kjbert]

Sagna definitely has more left in the tank, but he's risky.

What scares me the most is that at the age of 34, Sagna has been playing competitive soccer for about two years straight with practically no breaks, due to club (has logged some heavy minutes with City the last two seasons, when healthy) and country call-ups (last summer's Euros).

He's been declining anyway and he's headed for that cliff.

Ok so if the two, who do you prefer?

I know who I would orefer

 

[Yankeedom]

Ok so if the two, who do you prefer?

I know who I would orefer

I guess Sagna. He's the better athlete, he's more physical, he's French (better for communication with Chanot and PV), and he could slot in as a CB in a pinch.