Official: Pick At The Bones Thread (post Season Drafts)

At 140K+ I don't think Alston offers enough of an upgrade over RJ Allen.

The more I look at the re-entry and free agent lists, the more I think MCFC academy loans are the better option for us. Lets get 4 young guys (if the numbers work with the salary cap) who want to try to fight their way into the starting 11 and thrive in front of 30,000 NYCFC fans to prove themselves to MCFC.
I'm not sold that RJ can play LB though. I know nothing about Alston either, but if he could play LB, that could work.
 
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Here is an interesting article on the roster moves by LA Galaxy and the additional moves they may have to make. They've released 8 players, and Alan Gordon is a free agent. More interestingly, they have to figure out what to do with their 4 DPs. Last season, they used TAM to pay down Gonzalez's contract, but that's not an option this year. They might trade him, trade another player (Zardes, maybe) for allocation money, or sell Zardes to Europe.

If they trade Gonzalez, that would be a great pickup for anyone, but I'm not sure how we would make it work with Mix already needing to be paid down. Gordon is an interesting option, but not really at a position of need - still, he might be good enough that you take him. He made $110k last season.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sport...ions-on-8-players-20151207-story.html?ref=yfp
 
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Alan Gordon is an interesting figure. He's great in the air. I'm not convinced he's really that good, but he has more USMNT call-ups than anyone else on our roster not named Mix Diskerud. He does fill a position of need, depending on what position you believe Villa plays this year (I would like to see him out wide, but that's just me).
 
Going over the list, I just noticed Zac MacMath is eligible for the re-entry draft.

My first instinct would be to grab a guy who could be our starter 'keeper for a decade.......

Then I wonder, if this guy is supposed to be good why did Philadelphia loan him out, have him returned by Colorado and then leave him unprotected for the draft?

Should that be a red flag or am I over thinking this?
 
At 140K+ I don't think Alston offers enough of an upgrade over RJ Allen.

The more I look at the re-entry and free agent lists, the more I think MCFC academy loans are the better option for us. Lets get 4 young guys (if the numbers work with the salary cap) who want to try to fight their way into the starting 11 and thrive in front of 30,000 NYCFC fans to prove themselves to MCFC.
I don't necessarily disagree, but I'd really hate to see this team get into some sort of rut where every year we're going to have a Facey/Angelino come and play for one season (or half a season) then return to England. All that does is force the team to rebuild at the position in question year after year.
 
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Here is an interesting article on the roster moves by LA Galaxy and the additional moves they may have to make. They've released 8 players, and Alan Gordon is a free agent. More interestingly, they have to figure out what to do with their 4 DPs. Last season, they used TAM to pay down Gonzalez's contract, but that's not an option this year. They might trade him, trade another player (Zardes, maybe) for allocation money, or sell Zardes to Europe.

If they trade Gonzalez, that would be a great pickup for anyone, but I'm not sure how we would make it work with Mix already needing to be paid down. Gordon is an interesting option, but not really at a position of need - still, he might be good enough that you take him. He made $110k last season.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sport...ions-on-8-players-20151207-story.html?ref=yfp
Allegedly, MLS is allocating more TAM for 2016 to offset LA's situation. Promoting it as for the greater good of all teams, but it's obvious the purpose it to help repair LA's Cap mess.

I personally think it'd be a shame if LA had to sell/trade Zardes to make their roster cap work since one never wants to see a HG have to leave if they want to stay. Now if he wants to head to Europe, then that's another story....
 
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I don't necessarily disagree, but I'd really hate to see this team get into some sort of rut where every year we're going to have a Facey/Angelino come and play for one season (or half a season) then return to England. All that does is force the team to rebuild at the position in question year after year.


Great post. I think there are certain positions on a pitch (CB pairing, midfield general) where continuity is an absolute must. Conversely, I think you can plug and play wingers and Strikers who hold up play. I don't know about Fullbacks.
 
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Allegedly, MLS is allocating more TAM for 2016 to offset LA's situation. Promoting it as for the greater good of all teams, but it's obvious the purpose it to help repair LA's Cap mess.

I personally think it'd be a shame if LA had to sell/trade Zardes to make their roster cap work since one never wants to see a HG have to leave if they want to stay. Now if he wants to head to Europe, then that's another story....


He was rumored as a done deal to Reading. They just canned their manager. I agree that there should be a mechanism where the league can keep more of these Homegrowns. LA can pay his wages, but the cap may not allow them to.

More TAM does nothing for us. That really sucks. Just give more general allocation money. I hate how the MLS fanboys go bonkers when CFG hires PV to be the manager, then the league comes up with more TAM, which really only helps LAG, and Alexi Lalas and Gran Wahl don't even blink.
 
He was rumored as a done deal to Reading. They just canned their manager. I agree that there should be a mechanism where the league can keep more of these Homegrowns. LA can pay his wages, but the cap may not allow them to.

More TAM does nothing for us. That really sucks. Just give more general allocation money. I hate how the MLS fanboys go bonkers when CFG hires PV to be the manager, then the league comes up with more TAM, which really only helps LAG, and Alexi Lalas and Gran Wahl don't even blink.

well there is your problem, following those guys
 
Great post. I think there are certain positions on a pitch (CB pairing, midfield general) where continuity is an absolute must. Conversely, I think you can plug and play wingers and Strikers who hold up play. I don't know about Fullbacks.
Personally I think that could be said for all positions on the field.

Just for the sake of discussion lets say we do get a guy like Iheanacho on loan for 2016, and for laughs lets say the kid tears it up and scores 15 goals. Should that ever happen, we damn well know in 2017 he's back to Manchester.

Where does NYCFC find those 15 goals in '17? That's one helluva hole to fill.

Again I want to say I'm not totally against these kids coming over, it's just I don't want any sort of revolving door policy to become the norm. I guess it's a tough tightrope to walk.
 
He was rumored as a done deal to Reading. They just canned their manager. I agree that there should be a mechanism where the league can keep more of these Homegrowns. LA can pay his wages, but the cap may not allow them to.

More TAM does nothing for us. That really sucks. Just give more general allocation money. I hate how the MLS fanboys go bonkers when CFG hires PV to be the manager, then the league comes up with more TAM, which really only helps LAG, and Alexi Lalas and Gran Wahl don't even blink.
There should definitely be a Larry Bird Rule for MLS Homegrown players. Not just for their initial contract but for every contract as long as they stay with their home team. The League should be promoting the hell out of the possibility that a good Academy could field a large portion of the starting 11 from their own ranks, or at least mimic the success Barca, ManUtd and ACMilan has done in the past with their youth.
 
Personally I think that could be said for all positions on the field.

Just for the sake of discussion lets say we do get a guy like Iheanacho on loan for 2016, and for laughs lets say the kid tears it up and scores 15 goals. Should that ever happen, we damn well know in 2017 he's back to Manchester.

Where does NYCFC find those 15 goals in '17? That's one helluva hole to fill.
Well, sounds like 2016 was a really fun year then. Would totally be worth trying to replace that productivity.

And that line of thinking doesn't really work that well I dont think. Why cant we just apply the line of reasoning to this year "lets find someone to score 15 goals next year".
 
Personally I think that could be said for all positions on the field.

Just for the sake of discussion lets say we do get a guy like Iheanacho on loan for 2016, and for laughs lets say the kid tears it up and scores 15 goals. Should that ever happen, we damn well know in 2017 he's back to Manchester.

Where does NYCFC find those 15 goals in '17? That's one helluva hole to fill.

Again I want to say I'm not totally against these kids coming over, it's just I don't want any sort of revolving door policy to become the norm. I guess it's a tough tightrope to walk.
It's not just what they do on the field, but what they bring to the practices. It's healthy for the American youth on the team to see the way these guys prepare, and vice versa.

Also, the same player that score 17 goals one year could just as easily have only scored 10ish since there's a lot of luck involved and it's a game of inches - doesn't mean he's any better or worse, just that the ball rolled his way. The next year it may no roll his way.
 
Personally I think that could be said for all positions on the field.

Just for the sake of discussion lets say we do get a guy like Iheanacho on loan for 2016, and for laughs lets say the kid tears it up and scores 15 goals. Should that ever happen, we damn well know in 2017 he's back to Manchester.

Where does NYCFC find those 15 goals in '17? That's one helluva hole to fill.

Again I want to say I'm not totally against these kids coming over, it's just I don't want any sort of revolving door policy to become the norm. I guess it's a tough tightrope to walk.

2017 is going to be totally different from 2016 because of our DP contracts.

We need the most help on Defense next year, but have 4 guys on starter salaries of $175K+ (Hernandez, Iraola, Wingert and Mena). Especially with PV as Head Coach this year and his experience with those players I think we are going to build a better squad from there than with the Re-entry/Free Agents generally -- although Mapp and Clark would either be excellent additions if we can fit them in our cap and needs.
 
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Personally I think that could be said for all positions on the field.

Just for the sake of discussion lets say we do get a guy like Iheanacho on loan for 2016, and for laughs lets say the kid tears it up and scores 15 goals. Should that ever happen, we damn well know in 2017 he's back to Manchester.

Where does NYCFC find those 15 goals in '17? That's one helluva hole to fill.

Again I want to say I'm not totally against these kids coming over, it's just I don't want any sort of revolving door policy to become the norm. I guess it's a tough tightrope to walk.

I'd rather have the guy here scoring a ton of goals for a year, then worry how to replace him. Based on my experience watching underdog teams, having a player play well and then losing him (in my experience, immediately being snapped up by bigger clubs) is a far better problem than never having someone that hits those heights and having less success year on year.

Obviously, i'd rather have successful people here long term, but on the issue of temporary successful players, i'm all for it.
 
Jalil Anibaba of SKC looks like a possible CB option, Chris Schuler also looks pretty good from RSL (although they look pretty expensive and have injury problems). Andrés Correa could be a cheap pickup for LB depth.

Anibaba always played RB when he was with Chicago. He's a bit on the short side to play CB.
 
I don't necessarily disagree, but I'd really hate to see this team get into some sort of rut where every year we're going to have a Facey/Angelino come and play for one season (or half a season) then return to England. All that does is force the team to rebuild at the position in question year after year.

I totally see where your coming from, and I feel like with everyone else's post I might be the first one to hit the dead horse, BUT I see the loan situation as a positive, not a negative. Dont get me wrong, it hurts right now with Facey probably not coming back, but in the future it will probably add very valuable depth to our team. We would have been a worst team without Facey, and Angelino was a perfect player to add depth when we needed it halfway through the season.
 
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Regarding Zardes. It is worth keeping in mind what that the issue is not that they can't pay Zardes. It's that they can't pay their 4 DPs. Even if Zardes were making the league minimum, they might still elect to sell him in order to pay down Gonzalez's salary.

I don't feel sorry for LA at all. They made the decision to go get Dos Santos and Gerrard, and if they have to give up Zardes or Gonzalez in order to make that work - that's the choice they made.
 
I agree. They chose to pay Gerrard instead of Zardes essentially. Although you could argue even Gerrard on $6 Million is better for the club than Omar G on $1 Million from a revenue perspective (even though Gerrard doesn't fit the squad).

Can't fault them for going and getting Dos Santos.

I would still like to see the league reward teams for developing players like Zardes.
 
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