Stadium Discussion

Where Do You Want The Stadium?

  • Manhattan

    Votes: 54 16.6%
  • Queens

    Votes: 99 30.5%
  • Brooklyn

    Votes: 19 5.8%
  • Staten Island

    Votes: 7 2.2%
  • Westchester

    Votes: 18 5.5%
  • The Bronx

    Votes: 113 34.8%
  • Long Island

    Votes: 7 2.2%
  • Dual-Boroughs

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Etihad Island

    Votes: 5 1.5%

  • Total voters
    325
Can someone clarify this, it's confusingly short on details.

Is this implying that the parking garages are contractual obligated to provide 9,000 parking spaces for the use of Yankee Stadium patrons? And that is the reason the failing parking garages are unable to be converted into something else?
Yes, the Yankees have a lease agreement for the parking spaces. That's their bread and butter. In this scenario the Yankees would waive their rights to 2k of them (presumed to be the garage across the street from the GAL site), in order for the Bronx Development Parking Co (owners of the garage) to lease the land to developers.

The idea being that since they don't need that many spots, the land could be leased to a company that will generate revenue like income taxes, which would be helpful to the city. Right now the garage is mostly unused.

Imagine this: You have 100 parking spots. 5 garages with 20 spots each. You're only using 60 spots. It doesn't make sense to keep 2 empty garages running if they're never used. Instead you agree to give up the spots so the garages can be torn down and they can build something else that will be used there, like a condo, or a hotel, or a stadium maybe.
 
Seth Seth can you do us a favor? Can you overlay a stadium on the GAL Manufacturing site and the 153rd St. Parking Garage for Yankee Stadium? It would abut the 153rd St. Metro North stadium to the West and Heritage Field to the Northeast. It would eliminate E 153rd St. between Macombs Dam Park and River Ave.

The 153rd St. Garage has 2,411 spaces

http://en.parkopedia.com/parking/garage/153rd_street_garage/10451/new_york/
Time is a flat circle. Someone already did that on page 153 (153?! ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED)

http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-153

MagnusPax did it even better here: http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-178
 
You're welcome! :)

I'll take the Avaya sized version you posted. That's 18k, then nix the largest dumbest outdoor bar in America and put another stand on that end and you're pushing what, 22-24k?

GAL%20site%20-%20Avaya.jpg
 
No, it does not fit.
A uniform rectilinear stadium doesn't fit, or an unbalanced stadium doesn't fit? Also, the stands can be more vertical than RB Arena and are only constrained by the building code's rise/run of stairs. Maybe we go more "up" and have an irregular set of stands?
 
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In the first link, it doesn't fit. In the second link, it does fit.

That RBA is not the right scale. Compare it to the baseball diamond in the park. The stadium is maybe 25% larger (at least) than what's pictured.

A uniform rectilinear stadium doesn't fit, or an unbalanced stadium doesn't fit? Also, the stands can be more vertical than RB Arena and are only constrained by the building code's rise/run of stairs. Maybe we go more "up" and have an irregular set of stands?

Nothing fits in that space without moving the highway ramp and the trains (or putting the train under the stadium). If you can put the trains underground and move the ramp the site's a bit more flexible, but if all you do is tear down the garage it's too small, especially if you're not allowed to build into Heritage Field.
 
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That RBA is not the right scale. Compare it to the baseball diamond in the park. The stadium is maybe 25% larger (at least) than what's pictured.



Nothing fits in that space without moving the highway ramp and the trains (or putting the train under the stadium). If you can put the trains underground and move the ramp the site's a bit more flexible, but if all you do is tear down the garage it's too small, especially if you're not allowed to build into Heritage Field.
It does not sound like this space is viable for a stadium. I guess our best hope is the connection to the garages and obtaining land on a different site?
 
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A uniform rectilinear stadium doesn't fit, or an unbalanced stadium doesn't fit? Also, the stands can be more vertical than RB Arena and are only constrained by the building code's rise/run of stairs. Maybe we go more "up" and have an irregular set of stands?

Certainly seems like it could plausibly accommodate a large Kop-like stand on that western side that could fit into the point created by demolishing GAL but not touching the Metro North crossover.
 
Certainly seems like it could plausibly accommodate a large Kop-like stand on that western side that could fit into the point created by demolishing GAL but not touching the Metro North crossover.


That was kind of my thought as well. Build a "Blue Hell" like they have in Dortmund. Maybe very limited seating at one end.
 
I'll take the Avaya sized version you posted. That's 18k, then nix the largest dumbest outdoor bar in America and put another stand on that end and you're pushing what, 22-24k?

GAL%20site%20-%20Avaya.jpg


What if you rotated the stadium 15 degrees clockwise? Take the Avaya Stadium "Pin" there and move it to encompass the unused space in Heritage Park. Does that make sense?
 
What if you rotated the stadium 15 degrees clockwise? Take the Avaya Stadium "Pin" there and move it to encompass the unused space in Heritage Park. Does that make sense?

That would definitely be helpful from a planning perspective - the only problem is that you'd probably be entering politically dicey territory there. Even if it's not exactly the most practical parkland, it's still liable to be a flashpoint with the community unless they can guarantee that they'll be able to replace it nearby. (It's a small sliver to be sure, but community boards live for these kind of fights)
 
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