Stadium Discussion

NickFromAstoria · Oct 25, 2016

Andy said:
Yes, it will be really tough getting some kind of atmosphere in YS

Well, at least this turned out to be less challenging than was thought.

Vallos · Oct 25, 2016

adam said:
I wonder how they would highlight the view, while at the same time enclosing the stands for optimal viewing, protection from the elements and crowd noise...

Minnesota's new stadium could offer some clues... They are implementing "Translucent PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) building skin to protect fans from the elements."

http://www.mnunitedfc.com/news/2016/02/24/minnesota-united-unveils-stadium-design

adam · Oct 25, 2016

NickFromAstoria said:
Well, at least this turned out to be less challenging than was thought.

haha! You get some funny quotes when you go back far enough. I've mentioned this before, but we got really lucky with the supporters section positioning behind one of the nets. The Third Rail's first board could have easily chosen those bleachers in midfield (behind monument park) to set up shop and things could have turned out much differently.

Ulrich · Oct 25, 2016

Vallos said:
Minnesota's new stadium could offer some clues... They are implementing "Translucent PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) building skin to protect fans from the elements."

http://www.mnunitedfc.com/news/2016/02/24/minnesota-united-unveils-stadium-design

That's pretty cool!

But on a side note about their stadium, the article says the club will finance the $150M stadium and after completion it becomes publicly owned by the municipality???? How much is the land worth and whatever tax breaks they're getting that the club is giving away its biggest physical asset? Can somebody with finance/Realestate knowledge explain why they'd gift this?

Kjbert · Oct 25, 2016

Ulrich said:
That's pretty cool!

But on a side note about their stadium, the article says the club will finance the $150M stadium and after completion it becomes publicly owned by the municipality???? How much is the land worth and whatever tax breaks they're getting that the club is giving away its biggest physical asset? Can somebody with finance/Realestate knowledge explain why they'd gift this?

They probably keep all gameday revenue and pay no tax.

Christopher Jee · Oct 25, 2016

Vallos said:
Minnesota's new stadium could offer some clues... They are implementing "Translucent PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) building skin to protect fans from the elements."

http://www.mnunitedfc.com/news/2016/02/24/minnesota-united-unveils-stadium-design

That's pretty tight. The Emirates also has pretty good window vibes.

My first thought is "that's gonna kill a shit ton of birds" though

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Seth · Oct 25, 2016

Jon · Oct 25, 2016

Seth said:
Stadium size posts

GAL
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-204#post-120558

Fresh Direct
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-232#post-129673

CitiStorage
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-284#post-147073

Forest Hills
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-330#post-160548

Vernon and 44th
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-227#post-128057

Hudson Yards
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-163#post-99976
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-163#post-100087

Kingsbridge Armory
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-257#post-136656

Hunters Point Park
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-217#post-122907

Citi Field pitch size
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-272#post-140443

Central Park
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/twitter-‏-nickchavezmls-possibility-of-a-big-contract-being-terminated.4354/page-2#post-133576

Major World
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/fuck-you-major-world.4837/#post-160637

Modell's
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/2016-jersey-thread.4092/page-39#post-128047

Orangeburg
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/nycfc-training-facility-thread.4365/page-5#post-164752

Let me know if I missed any. I thought I did ones for Sunnyside Yard and another one for Pier 40 but I can't seem to find those.

One word: dedication

Seth · Oct 25, 2016

413Blue · Oct 26, 2016

Ulrich said:
That's pretty cool!

But on a side note about their stadium, the article says the club will finance the $150M stadium and after completion it becomes publicly owned by the municipality???? How much is the land worth and whatever tax breaks they're getting that the club is giving away its biggest physical asset? Can somebody with finance/Realestate knowledge explain why they'd gift this?

That's pretty standard nowadays. It's essentially a t

Edit: f!?@ I had a somewhat lengthy response and something happened that cut it off. My phone sucks so I'll try to re do it on my PC tomorrow.

FootyLovin · Oct 26, 2016

Ulrich said:

Etihad Garage - Name confirmed!!!

Vallos · Oct 26, 2016

Here is a rending of the inside of Minnesota's stadium, showing a bit of the translucent building skin they are going to do make. This "skin", or mesh is reported to have LED lighting.

The 34.5-acre site will feature a stadium exterior meant to reflect the energy of the Northern Lights by using a translucent tensile mesh fabric with LED lighting throughout to mix up the aesthetic “flow” of the building. The fabric mixes with Minnesota’s famed limestone and burnished block and glass to form the exterior design that lets light filter in and out, but keeps the elements at bay.

http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/02/24/minnesota-soccer-stadium-designs-plans-renderings-mls

FootyLovin · Oct 26, 2016

Vallos said:
Here is a rending of the inside of Minnesota's stadium, showing a bit of the translucent building skin they are going to do make. This "skin", or mesh is reported to have LED lighting.

The 34.5-acre site will feature a stadium exterior meant to reflect the energy of the Northern Lights by using a translucent tensile mesh fabric with LED lighting throughout to mix up the aesthetic “flow” of the building. The fabric mixes with Minnesota’s famed limestone and burnished block and glass to form the exterior design that lets light filter in and out, but keeps the elements at bay.

http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/02/24/minnesota-soccer-stadium-designs-plans-renderings-mls

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Have to wonder what would be more valuable to CFG. The iconic nature of the building if you took away that second tier of seating on that end to give a full view of the skyline? Or the extra couple thousand seats that tier would hold?

NickFromAstoria · Oct 26, 2016

FootyLovin said:
Have to wonder what would be more valuable to CFG. The iconic nature of the building if you took away that second tier of seating on that end to give a full view of the skyline? Or the extra couple thousand seats that tier would hold?

Maybe they could make up for it by adding more to the eastern side. That could have the added benefit of further blocking noise and exhaust from the LIE.

Vallos · Oct 26, 2016

FootyLovin said:
Have to wonder what would be more valuable to CFG. The iconic nature of the building if you took away that second tier of seating on that end to give a full view of the skyline? Or the extra couple thousand seats that tier would hold?

I am sure that conundrum is being worked on, if that location will be the one. A design can be achieved. The key is having one end of the stadium facing west, similar to how the Steeler's stadium is positioned.

adam · Oct 26, 2016

Vallos said:
Here is a rending of the inside of Minnesota's stadium, showing a bit of the translucent building skin they are going to do make. This "skin", or mesh is reported to have LED lighting.

The 34.5-acre site will feature a stadium exterior meant to reflect the energy of the Northern Lights by using a translucent tensile mesh fabric with LED lighting throughout to mix up the aesthetic “flow” of the building. The fabric mixes with Minnesota’s famed limestone and burnished block and glass to form the exterior design that lets light filter in and out, but keeps the elements at bay.

http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/02/24/minnesota-soccer-stadium-designs-plans-renderings-mls

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Interesting, that's also Populous.

Also, on page 211 (whomever's making the index) is the seating layout from their survey they sent us in February. I know this isn't their blueprint or anything, but it looks like they expect to fill in all the corners with seating.

Vallos · Oct 26, 2016

Wasn't that more about getting a feel on how much we are willing to pay for? I would think the location of the stadium would greatly impact how seating will be arranged.

adam · Oct 26, 2016

Vallos said:
Wasn't that more about getting a feel on how much we are willing to pay for? I would think the location of the stadium would greatly impact how seating will be arranged.

They had me at PSL...

adam · Oct 26, 2016

Also, I don't think this was ever done, so I superimposed the two halves of the proposed seating chart into one. Gives a clearer idea of what they are picturing in terms of seating arrangement for us fans.

Vallos · Oct 26, 2016

adam said:
Also, I don't think this was ever done, so I superimposed the two halves of the proposed seating chart into one. Gives a clearer idea of what they are picturing in terms of seating arrangement for us fans.

View attachment 6055

I would like it if the Supporter Section would be facing the Skyline. They certainly deserve that view. Make that section high and large and lower the End Line to showcase the skyline.

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