Stadium Discussion

What Will Be The Name Of The New Home?

  • Etihad Stadium

    Votes: 4 16.7%
  • Etihad Park

    Votes: 11 45.8%
  • Etihad Field

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Etihad Arena

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • Etihad Bowl

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    24
Feds hate municipal bonds. There's a reason they have tried, under multiple Presidents, to eliminate all or some of the tax exempt nature of them at the Federal level.

When NYC uses it to build the Yankees and Mets a stadium, that's interest on $3 Billion worth of debt that they can't tax you on.
 
Stadia get more focus because in most cases (MLS aside) both the owners and players are extremely wealthy. It's not common for other businesses to spend half their revenue on 1-2 dozen vastly wealthy employees. Other businesses that get subsidies can appear to generate more jobs for regular people. Which might not even be true but that's the perception.

As for your last point, why the hell should the federal government subsidize bidding wars between different states, regardless of the business? First of all, special deals are inherently corrupt. If your state's taxes are too high to attract sufficient industry, then lower them for everyone, not just the politically connected. If they're not too high, then -- again -- don't give out special deals to the politically connected. it's even less justifiable then. Besides sports, the other industry that gets a ton of subsidies and cheeses me off is the film industry. It's high profile just like sports because politicians love photo ops with athletes and actors. Meanwhile some schlub who wants to open a metal works and doesn't have a major social media presence and an ability to get interviewed on E! pays full freight. It's corrupt bullshit.

Apart from that, if company X is playing 2 states off against each other as to where to build or expand, the federal government should not care who wins or subsidize either or both bids. The idea that something subsidized by the feds is free money for states to take advantage of is costly nonsense.

I don't necessarily disagree.
 
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Congress Could Make It Harder for Local Pols to Blow Your Money on Stadiums
Bipartisan proposal would prohibit the use of tax exempt municipal bonds for stadium projects. That won't end stadium giveaways, but might reduce them.


Reason Magazine online. Article notes that Obama made a similar proposal in 2015 that did not advance. This probably won't pass either, but that it is a bipartisan proposal now is a progression. Still, the NYCFC deal is possibly far enough away that this could have an impact if it keeps making progress. I am completely in favor, regardless of the effect on NYCFC.
Would have bet I was likely the only person here who ever read Reason. But you'd have been my top guess.
 
http://deadspin.com/cincinnati-home-of-terrible-stadium-deals-is-being-ex-1796232899

Decent piece, nothing new, only really tangentially relevant. So, probably too relevant to actually be posted here.
That was interesting especially as my ex is from there so I've been there a billion times (and I surely do miss Skyline). My only issue was that they never seemed to include the clause "…although NYCFC does actually play in a baseball stadium" anywhere in the article. Or mention the Sounders or Revs playing in a football stadium.
 
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That was interesting especially as my ex is from there so I've been there a billion times (and I surely do miss Skyline). My only issue was that they never seemed to include the clause "…although NYCFC does actually play in a baseball stadium" anywhere in the article. Or mention the Sounders or Revs playing in a football stadium.
I don't like sweet and cinnamon flavored chilli. 1 way 3 or 5. Doesn't matter. I do steal their ways sometimes to use with my own chilli.

Also, I feel like that whole little area of the country right there is so culturallly confused. One of the few places where if you order tea, it's unclear if they'll bring you sweet or unsweetened.
 
That was interesting especially as my ex is from there so I've been there a billion times (and I surely do miss Skyline). My only issue was that they never seemed to include the clause "…although NYCFC does actually play in a baseball stadium" anywhere in the article. Or mention the Sounders or Revs playing in a football stadium.

Good lord man how did you eat that semi-sweet slop on overcooked pasta? I nearly heaved.
 
You wanna see some good chili that does have noodles? Check out Real Chili in Milwaukee, WI. Skyline doesn't hold a candle. And they don't use cinnamon or whatever other crap they use in Cincy.


No. I do not want to see good chili that does have "noodles" as you call them. Chili does not belong on "noodles." Nor does pineapple belong on pizza.

But good chili sans pasta that doesn't try to be a dessert, yeah, I'll go for that. Maybe a giant bowl of Frito pie (Texas). Now that's chili.

+1 to Midas re: ohio's cultural confusion. Having spent several weeks in Columbus, this is best description of the area I've seen yet.
 
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"Stadium in less than two years, CONFIRMED!!"

So the Yankees are kicking us out. There is almost zero chance of building a stadium in a reasonable Borough.

Holy shit. In two seasons we'll be sharing Red Bull Arena.
 
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