Stadium Discussion

[sbrylski]

The theory we want to believe:

Sims brought in, told stadium is near finish line, will be announced by June.

Sims is naive and believed them before realizing he's dealing with NYC and Abu Dhabi.

Sims factors stadium announcement into pricing plans and begins working on 2020 pricing in early 2019.

Pricing plans, budgets, and revenues are locked in months in advance because Abu Dhabi purse strings like it that way.

First permits begin to be granted for the stadium. Abu Dhabi spots some issue with final financing plan, or just drags their feet.

Stadium announcement slips. Pricing plans published. Fans left scratching head. Stadium announcement still pending.

 

[The Toe]

As an eternal optimist, I think the stadium deal is a foregone conclusion for one of the areas near Yankee Stadium. There are just a ton of gears that need to be greased that are finally getting the full attention of the club. The first 5 years scouting sites and figuring out which will be the most viable and accessible with the focus on the GAL/S Bronx site being worked on all the while because of it was earliest identified as the easiest site to procure. I think the roadways and any effect on transit will be the hardest part in getting everything approved. I actually do feel like they're pretty close, but its the stuff that feels it should be simple that requires the most in legal work. Thankfully, they've had a lot of time to plan and get all the bells and whistles coordinated that there should be no delay in building.

 

[FredMertz]

The theory we want to believe:

Sims brought in, told stadium is near finish line, will be announced by June.

Sims is naive and believed them before realizing he's dealing with NYC and Abu Dhabi.

Sims factors stadium announcement into pricing plans and begins working on 2020 pricing in early 2019.

Pricing plans, budgets, and revenues are locked in months in advance because Abu Dhabi purse strings like it that way.

First permits begin to be granted for the stadium. Abu Dhabi spots some issue with final financing plan, or just drags their feet.

Stadium announcement slips. Pricing plans published. Fans left scratching head. Stadium announcement still pending.

Or as Occam's Principle of Limited Imagination suggests, they're all just clueless.

 

[Ulrich]

The theory we want to believe:

Sims brought in, told stadium is near finish line, will be announced by June.

Sims is naive and believed them before realizing he's dealing with NYC and Abu Dhabi.

Sims factors stadium announcement into pricing plans and begins working on 2020 pricing in early 2019.

Pricing plans, budgets, and revenues are locked in months in advance because Abu Dhabi purse strings like it that way.

First permits begin to be granted for the stadium. Abu Dhabi spots some issue with final financing plan, or just drags their feet.

Stadium announcement slips. Pricing plans published. Fans left scratching head. Stadium announcement still pending.

As I mentioned before, they won’t have any permits yet unless they’re in possession of the site as either:
A: owners
B: lease holders with the owner having signed the DOB paperwork.

Permits are not granted without legal possession of the entity/site to be worked on. So *IF* they are in possession, but haven’t announced because of some backroom construction financing issue as you suggest, then this is entirely a self-inflicted wound.

....Long term damage done to fanbase that won’t easily be rectifiable.

....it’s also poor management to theoretically have the site and permits, and not have put the shovels in the ground. There is zero room for a schedule slide as every week/month impacts viability of home matches during the initial season.

 

[Christopher Jee]

this shirt is awful

Thank you for taking on some of the burden of hating on shitty swag. It's a lonely road.

 

[Kjbert]

For those of you dropping tickets, if they held a press conference tomorrow and announced they’re building, would you stop complaining? I would.

 

[FredMertz]

For those of you dropping tickets, if they held a press conference tomorrow and announced they’re building, would you stop complaining? I would.

My guess is that their focus on customer service isn't going to get better once they announce a stadium -- it's likely to get worse.

 

[Ulrich]

For those of you dropping tickets, if they held a press conference tomorrow and announced they’re building, would you stop complaining? I would.

A lot of what I’ve seen posted is not only the stadium, but the lack of transparency with everything concerning the club. Sure there are some things that should be secret, to not screw up the transaction with sought players, but the lack of outreach and updates and self-inflicted wounds seem to have used up the STH’s good will.

 

[adam]

A lot of what I’ve seen posted is not only the stadium, but the lack of transparency with everything concerning the club. Sure there are some things that should be secret, to not screw up the transaction with sought players, but the lack of outreach and updates and self-inflicted wounds seem to have used up the STH’s good will.

Exactly. I don’t expect a stadium for well forever really. But I hate that they are raising prices every season for no reason while my tickets keep being worth less and less due to their own making (stubhub deal, midweek matches, etc..). And now they are hiding the pricing!!!!!????? That is probably the straw that broke this camels back.

 

[The Toe]

Singlecut, Evil Twin, Bronx Brewery, Garvie's Point, Grimm. We need the best beer from NYC at our stadium. So horny for beer.

 

[Kjbert]

My guess is that their focus on customer service isn't going to get better once they announce a stadium -- it's likely to get worse.

Who cares?

 

[Kjbert]

A lot of what I’ve seen posted is not only the stadium, but the lack of transparency with everything concerning the club. Sure there are some things that should be secret, to not screw up the transaction with sought players, but the lack of outreach and updates and self-inflicted wounds seem to have used up the STH’s good will.

Doesn’t most of that go back to the stadium?

 

[Ulrich]

Doesn’t most of that go back to the stadium?

No

 

[FredMertz]

Who cares?

As a customer, why wouldn’t I care about their customer service? Your question vexes me.

 

[Kjbert]

As a customer, why wouldn’t I care about their customer service? Your question vexes me.

How often do you interact with customer service? I'm perplexed

 

[FredMertz]

How often do you interact with customer service? I'm perplexed

You're easily perplexed or a very undemanding consumer.

Every interaction the club has with its fans and STHs, whether 1x1 or broadly, from ticket and concession pricing decisions to scheduling decisions to Cityzens programs to security issues and more is customer service.

They're bad at it now and my sense from every communication is that they thing a stadium announcement will make everything great.

 

[moogoo]

How often do you interact with customer service? I'm perplexed

I think you're limiting customer service to direct interaction with your ticket rep. Personally, I don't talk to mine more than once or twice a season either. But I think everyone is talking about customer service in a more general sense.

oh just realized Fred talked about the same thing. But yea. the club could be doing more to show it values STHs and that goes way beyond having a ticket rep respond to you in a reasonably timely manner.

 

[Ulrich]

How often do you interact with customer service? I'm perplexed

If you’re adam , evidently never since they don’t call him back. A stadium announcement will never fix something so basic and fundamental as returning a phone call/email.

 

[ZYanksRule]

If you’re adam , evidently never since they don’t call him back. A stadium announcement will never fix something so basic and fundamental as returning a phone call/email.

In fact, stuff like that will probably get worse with a new stadium because they'll be busier and won't have as much time for 1-on-1 contact.

 

[LionNYC]

In fact, stuff like that will probably get worse with a new stadium because they'll be busier and won't have as much time for 1-on-1 contact.

This is what I said earlier, a stadium won't fix all the front office problems in fact it will likely get worse. There will be considerable more season ticket accounts (depending on the price jump when we move into a stadium), so while the additional revenue may increase the number of staff, the ratio of accounts to staff will increase. Plus, all the issues people have will be more NYCFC related than Yankees/Yankee Stadium related, so they have to address more issues that come up.