Stadium Discussion

[Kenny]

One question I have about all this involves the open parking lots on the river between the roads right off Exit 6. These seem to be a great spot for developing nice public space for the community to access and enjoy the river. The area directly to the south is the Children's Museum and some park space. This could be an extension of that park.

Was this addressed in the meeting? I note that the space is marked in yellow on the picture below, but it's not clear what that designates.

The other issue is getting access to that space from the other side of the Degan and the Metro North tracks. Given that both the 153rd St ramp and the Metro North Overpass will likely need moving or adjusting to fit the Stadium, there should be ample opportunity to upgrade to something that allows pedestrians to cross the tracks on both sides of the Stadium.

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Hmm in urban planning, yellow typically means residential.

 

[FredMertz]

How would we all feel if they announce a stadium that is not in New York City proper, but because it will be 2050 and instant matter teleportation will exist, you can get to the stadium via portals at all major transportation hubs?

 

[mgarbowski]

How would we all feel if they announce a stadium that is not in New York City proper, but because it will be 2050 and instant matter teleportation will exist, you can get to the stadium via portals at all major transportation hubs?

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People will take it more positively if you remind them that people wearing red shirts never survive those trips.

 

[moogoo]

How would we all feel if they announce a stadium that is not in New York City proper, but because it will be 2050 and instant matter teleportation will exist, you can get to the stadium via portals at all major transportation hubs?

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People would hate it cause it would increase matter stream congestion in sub-space. Who wants to deal with that on game day? Not me.

 

[COLINMOUTH]

One question I have about all this involves the open parking lots on the river between the roads right off Exit 6. These seem to be a great spot for developing nice public space for the community to access and enjoy the river. The area directly to the south is the Children's Museum and some park space. This could be an extension of that park.

Was this addressed in the meeting? I note that the space is marked in yellow on the picture below, but it's not clear what that designates.

The other issue is getting access to that space from the other side of the Degan and the Metro North tracks. Given that both the 153rd St ramp and the Metro North Overpass will likely need moving or adjusting to fit the Stadium, there should be ample opportunity to upgrade to something that allows pedestrians to cross the tracks on both sides of the Stadium.

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Apparently a walking bridge is a big push for the community board from what I’ve read.

 

[FootyLovin]

People will take it more positively if you remind them that people wearing red shirts never survive those trips.

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[Joe_Cos]

Come on... Really Yankees. I know they are trying to fix the Deal but this just tone deaf.


New MLB deal would turn area around Yankee Stadium into a ‘ghost town’: BP Diaz


]https://pix11.com/2019/10/31/new-ml...und-yankee-stadium-into-a-ghost-town-bp-diaz/[/URL]

 

[SoupInNYC]

One question I have about all this involves the open parking lots on the river between the roads right off Exit 6. These seem to be a great spot for developing nice public space for the community to access and enjoy the river. The area directly to the south is the Children's Museum and some park space. This could be an extension of that park.

Was this addressed in the meeting? I note that the space is marked in yellow on the picture below, but it's not clear what that designates.

The other issue is getting access to that space from the other side of the Degan and the Metro North tracks. Given that both the 153rd St ramp and the Metro North Overpass will likely need moving or adjusting to fit the Stadium, there should be ample opportunity to upgrade to something that allows pedestrians to cross the tracks on both sides of the Stadium.

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So the area in the image that is yellow, they have identified that as a potential "anchor development", but don't have anything specific tied to it. My understanding of an anchor development, is it's something that on it's own, should attract individuals. The other yellow one at the bottom is an anchor development, and that is the Hip Hop Museum.

Regards to just below that, they are looking for an extension to the park.

 

[adam]

How would we all feel if they announce a stadium that is not in New York City proper, but because it will be 2050 and instant matter teleportation will exist, you can get to the stadium via portals at all major transportation hubs?

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there’s a reason Bones hates the transporter. The doctor understands what it really is. Hard pass for me. But I’ll take a shuttlecraft.

 

[Fantazma]

Come on... Really Yankees. I know they are trying to fix the Deal but this just tone deaf.


New MLB deal would turn area around Yankee Stadium into a ‘ghost town’: BP Diaz


]https://pix11.com/2019/10/31/new-ml...und-yankee-stadium-into-a-ghost-town-bp-diaz/[/URL]

the deal is not strictly with yankees though, its league wide like MLS has with Adidas. not sure if other stadiums in MLB have shops near their stadiums selling merchandise that are also affected.

 

[Kenny]

People will take it more positively if you remind them that people wearing red shirts never survive those trips.

Red Bulls fans, for example

 

[Gotham Gator]

Nike are just such a bunch of bottom feeding shits.

Where are the anti-trust laws when you need them?

 

[LionNYC]

Nike are just such a bunch of bottom feeding shits.

Where are the anti-trust laws when you need them?

You see this shit? There has never been an apparel logo on the front of a Yankees uniform. Sickening.

 

[mgarbowski]

Where are the anti-trust laws when you need them?

Intellectual property has a general exemption to antitrust, because the whole point of IP is to create a monopoly over the sale and distribution of inventions, creative works, etc. So the Yankees can probably do whatever they want to restrict the sale of goods with the Yankee logo and other trademark-protected stuff. I don't think it makes a difference that they do it at the behest of Nike.

 

[Gotham Gator]

Intellectual property has a general exemption to antitrust, because the whole point of IP is to create a monopoly over the sale and distribution of inventions, creative works, etc. So the Yankees can probably do whatever they want to restrict the sale of goods with the Yankee logo and other trademark-protected stuff. I don't think it makes a difference that they do it at the behest of Nike.

I don't think this is really an IP issue - they aren't refusing to license the logo or apparel. They are limiting the sale of a good to certain retail outlets and not others for what appear to be anti-competitive reasons.

 

[sundance]

I don't think this is really an IP issue - they aren't refusing to license the logo or apparel. They are limiting the sale of a good to certain retail outlets and not others for what appear to be anti-competitive reasons.

Isn’t that all distribution networks?

 

[mgarbowski]

I don't think this is really an IP issue - they aren't refusing to license the logo or apparel. They are limiting the sale of a good to certain retail outlets and not others for what appear to be anti-competitive reasons.

IP is inherently anti-competitive. Geographic restrictions are part of IP rights and you can restrict not just manufacturing but where things are sold. Some academic types are arguing that IP should be narrowed from its traditional scope but they're not getting much traction.

 

[Kjbert]

Could a school be an anchor property?

 

[Ulrich]

Could a school be an anchor property?

You mean like a soccer academy?

Typically an anchor property is an entity that will be a focal point of the development in the largest space providing the biggest rent opportunity to the owners while also being a draw for smaller businesses to congregate around. Like Wegmans, Bestbuy, or Home Depot, or for smaller blocks a Duane Reade.

A regular Dept of Ed school may be since doing so probably give a ton of tax breaks to the development as an offset to no leased revenue, or a private school would pay the lease, so a hypothetical soccer academy possibly could also, but we know that the money paid in will 100% be more sports washing/laundering.

 

[FredMertz]

You see this shit? There has never been an apparel logo on the front of a Yankees uniform. Sickening.

I mean technically, yes, but there have been Majestic logos on both sleeves for a while now.