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It’s also ludicrous that players on club World Cup teams aren’t released.

Suddenly club play is all important as long as FIFA gets a cut.

This will probably change but I am shocked at how little I care about the 2026 World Cup right now.
 
It’s also ludicrous that players on club World Cup teams aren’t released.

Suddenly club play is all important as long as FIFA gets a cut.

This will probably change but I am shocked at how little I care about the 2026 World Cup right now.

i doubt i will care about CWC even when it's happening unless the MLS teams somehow make it deep into the tournament, then i'd pay attention just to support MLS.
 
I was there. I know we have a lot of injuries and this is not a first-choice roster, but our national team does not engender confidence. I found myself not particularly interested in the match and didn't really care whether we tied it or not. Just so much apathy for our national team, and I'm really worried about what we look like in the World Cup.
 
I was there. I know we have a lot of injuries and this is not a first-choice roster, but our national team does not engender confidence. I found myself not particularly interested in the match and didn't really care whether we tied it or not. Just so much apathy for our national team, and I'm really worried about what we look like in the World Cup.
Watched it on TV. I worry that even when we have the top talent/first choice players, we end up relying on individual brilliance rather than team goals.
 
Watched it on TV. I worry that even when we have the top talent/first choice players, we end up relying on individual brilliance rather than team goals.

I just feel like there's a lack of urgency throughout the federation that filters down to the players. You watch the Turkish players yesterday, and you could tell how much it means to play for the national team. Do our players feel that way? Are they giving their all in these games? It may only be a friendly, but there's a cultural issue within this team that I think is the bigger issue.
 
I just feel like there's a lack of urgency throughout the federation that filters down to the players. You watch the Turkish players yesterday, and you could tell how much it means to play for the national team. Do our players feel that way? Are they giving their all in these games? It may only be a friendly, but there's a cultural issue within this team that I think is the bigger issue.
And somewhat sideways related to that, apparently there's a lot of Turkish folks in the Hartford area. Felt a bit like an away match, at least from watching it on TV.
 
I just feel like there's a lack of urgency throughout the federation that filters down to the players. You watch the Turkish players yesterday, and you could tell how much it means to play for the national team. Do our players feel that way? Are they giving their all in these games? It may only be a friendly, but there's a cultural issue within this team that I think is the bigger issue.
That seems to be the prevailing narrative of the punditry as well. I just can't help but get tired of hearing the old guard complain about the lack of urgency in this team.

I don't think anyone has any idea why this team keeps underperforming. But I would surmise, it has a lot to do with the USMNT not having a clear identity.

The USMNT was always the underdog and now they're expected to win every game. And when they don't win every game they get killed in the media by the old guard for not having enough heart and not fighting hard enough like they did.

This team isn't good enough to just get out there and win every game with minimal effort, but they certainly don't have to act like they're the underdog every time they go out on the field.

They do however need to win some games and get the monkey off their back.
 
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That seems to be the prevailing narrative of the punditry as well. I just can't help but get tired of hearing the old guard complain about the lack of urgency in this team.

I don't think anyone has any idea why this team keeps underperforming. But I would surmise, it has a lot to do with the USMNT not having a clear identity.

The USMNT was always the underdog and now they're expected to win every game. And when they don't win every game they get killed in the media by the old guard for not having enough heart and not fighting hard enough like they did.

This team isn't good enough to just get out there and win every game with minimal effort, but they certainly don't have to act like they're the underdog every time they go out on the field.

They do however need to win some games and get the monkey off their back.

there is some truth to the desire and pride. why have barely any of the stars come to play the gold cup? The national team does not get together that often. This is valuable time and experience to work together and play in a competitive cup tournament, yet so many of our best players decided they didn't want to make the trip cause they're "tired". Look at all the other national teams, have their best players not had the same long season? They are HAPPY to go play for their country and would probably be extremely disappointed not to get called up. Some of these guys are then going to play in the CWC.

yet, our top national team players want their break with a world cup coming next summer as the host country, they decide they want to relax on the beach instead of getting in extremely valuable training time with each other and poch.

if we weren't automatically qualified for the wc, i'm not sure we would qualify with this kind of attitude toward national team play.
 
there is some truth to the desire and pride. why have barely any of the stars come to play the gold cup? The national team does not get together that often. This is valuable time and experience to work together and play in a competitive cup tournament, yet so many of our best players decided they didn't want to make the trip cause they're "tired". Look at all the other national teams, have their best players not had the same long season? They are HAPPY to go play for their country and would probably be extremely disappointed not to get called up. Some of these guys are then going to play in the CWC.

yet, our top national team players want their break with a world cup coming next summer as the host country, they decide they want to relax on the beach instead of getting in extremely valuable training time with each other and poch.

if we weren't automatically qualified for the wc, i'm not sure we would qualify with this kind of attitude toward national team play.
I think the only two who are taking time off are Pulisic and Musah?
If that's the case, then this whole thing might be blown out of proportion, frankly.

Robinson - surgery
Dest - Fitness coming off surgery
McKennie - Club World Cup
Reyna - Club World Cup
Pepi - injured
Balogun - Injured
Scally - not called up.
and so on.
 
there is some truth to the desire and pride.
Is it unfair to imagine there is a pride gap?

In NY we get a lot of celebrations of other countries national pride. St Patrick's, PR Day Parade (I know; not a country, but still), lots of little events. The celebrants of these events aren't even necessarily natives of those places. They just have ancestral pride. But DAMN do they have pride.

American pride is complicated. There is definitely the kind of pure, unquestioned, love-it-or-leave-it pride that feels a lot like those other country events, in magnitude if not in style.

But a lot of people view that kind of pride as a bit jingoistic. This at a time when the rest of the world is viewing the US with a lot of anger and disdain. And this among a group of players, many of whom grew up in and/or play in countries where that anti-US sentiment and anti-US-jingoism are prevalent.

I'm not saying players are conflicted when they take the field. I believe them when they say they want to play for the national team and are proud to do so.

But I think it reasonable to imagine that it is hard for at least some American players to summon the same national pride -and therefore energy - that you see in players from Morocco, Iceland, Japan, Mexico, Brazil, etc.
 
It sounds like Matt Turner is on his way to Lyon. Their number one last season was a Brazilian who has up to U23 Brazil caps but it also sounds like Milan and a few Serie A teams are in on him. Hopefully he leaves and Turner can be number one and get needed minutes before the WC.
 
It sounds like Matt Turner is on his way to Lyon. Their number one last season was a Brazilian who has up to U23 Brazil caps but it also sounds like Milan and a few Serie A teams are in on him. Hopefully he leaves and Turner can be number one and get needed minutes before the WC.
Yes. This has all the hallmarks of Lyon going to buy a guy to replace the starter they are selling. Would be a great situation for Matt.
 
Is there a world where we drop poch before the world cup? If we crash out of the gold cup or not get out of the group, does US Soccer fire him?
 
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