2019 Roster Discussion

What Position Should NYCFC Target For Its Splash Signing?

  • Striker

    Votes: 52 89.7%
  • Midfielder

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • Defender

    Votes: 3 5.2%

  • Total voters
    58
I will be very disappointed if we stand pat at the deadline. LAFC, DC, NYRB, MTL all making significant additions and we still don't have a league-average left back. Plenty of wingers, though.
 
I will be very disappointed if we stand pat at the deadline. LAFC, DC, NYRB, MTL all making significant additions and we still don't have a league-average left back. Plenty of wingers, though.

There’s one hole on the roster. Not so easy to find a solution within the league unfortunately.
 
3 of the 4 teams ahead of them made significant additions from outside the league. If you can't sign a foreign league player in August, what hope do you have? Not a single non-DP LB better than Sweatarita available in any league in the word?
 
I will be very disappointed if we stand pat at the deadline. LAFC, DC, NYRB, MTL all making significant additions and we still don't have a league-average left back. Plenty of wingers, though.

LAFC signed a DP.
LAG signed a DP (for next year).
D.C. making contributor moves.
Red Bulls sign a winger (so did we).
Montreal potentially get the most underrated player of the transfer.

I don't think our roster is great enough to win the East, and not to win the MLS Cup away in LA.
 
3 of the 4 teams ahead of them made significant additions from outside the league. If you can't sign a foreign league player in August, what hope do you have? Not a single non-DP LB better than Sweatarita available in any league in the word?

And to takers for Mata or Sweat to help make that room under the cap?
 
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You look at that and say...ok, we are neck and neck with Atlanta....we spend!

Then you remember that Almiron alone sort of distorts that view.

We are not cheap though, we just had some underperforming transfers.

That’s 5 years of transfer spending for us, $26mm total before Jack Harrison sale. 2 years for LAFC, with no sales. 3 years for ATL (minus Almiron sale). Otherwise ATL is at $46mm+ in 3 years.

AVG annual spend;
NYCFC: $5.2mm
LAFC: $11mm
ATL: $15.3mm

We’re being left FAR behind when you look at it closely. Just wait till Miami starts spending. Also, 42% of our total spend for the LIFE OF THE CLUB was Mitri and 15% was Medina. Let that sink in.
 
Yeah we do need to be more aggressive if we want to be anything other than Tottenham in this league.
Transfer spending is not the greatest metric though, as Villa, Lampard and Pirlo all came in on Free transfers, but were more expensive than many $multi-million transfer players.
Still, we are going to be left behind if we don't get more aggressive. The one advantage we have over LAFC now is our academy, but from what I understand we probably will lose that advantage over the next several years.
 
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You look at that and say...ok, we are neck and neck with Atlanta....we spend!

Then you remember that Almiron alone sort of distorts that view.

We are not cheap though, we just had some underperforming transfers.
Underperforming big transfers, overperforming smaller transfers. Soccer is weird.
 
That’s 5 years of transfer spending for us, $26mm total before Jack Harrison sale. 2 years for LAFC, with no sales. 3 years for ATL (minus Almiron sale). Otherwise ATL is at $46mm+ in 3 years.

AVG annual spend;
NYCFC: $5.2mm
LAFC: $11mm
ATL: $15.3mm

We’re being left FAR behind when you look at it closely. Just wait till Miami starts spending. Also, 42% of our total spend for the LIFE OF THE CLUB was Mitri and 15% was Medina. Let that sink in.
Yeah we do need to be more aggressive if we want to be anything other than Tottenham in this league.
Transfer spending is not the greatest metric though, as Villa, Lampard and Pirlo all came in on Free transfers, but were more expensive than many $multi-million transfer players.
Still, we are going to be left behind if we don't get more aggressive. The one advantage we have over LAFC now is our academy, but from what I understand we probably will lose that advantage over the next several years.
These are good points.

The Lampard, Pirlo, and Villa signings along with the rules of the league in 2015 and 2016 really, really limited NYCFC's ability to spend. Now obviously, that limitation was in a big way self-imposed, since we could have decided to bring in someone else with a transfer fee instead of one of those 3, but I won't dive into that argument as that's been had many times on here. But other than DPs, there really weren't any mechanisms available to spend decent money on a transfer in 2015 and 2016.
 
This doesn’t make any sense to me. Mitrita for $8 million. Medina for $4 million. Heber for $1.5 million. Probably another $2-3 Million in there for Callens and Matarrita and Ring and Chanot.

What am I missing here?
 
This doesn’t make any sense to me. Mitrita for $8 million. Medina for $4 million. Heber for $1.5 million. Probably another $2-3 Million in there for Callens and Matarrita and Ring and Chanot.

What am I missing here?
Tutul makes his data public:


K Kjbert you're right. The dude listed Mitri twice in his charts, it messed up his numbers. It also puts us behind Seattle on his list of Net Spending.

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These are the real #s:

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Now we're really behind ATL & LAFC on transfer spending!
 
K Kjbert you're right. The dude listed Mitri twice in his charts, it messed up his numbers. It also puts us behind Seattle on his list of Net Spending.

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These are the real #s:

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Now we're really behind ATL & LAFC on transfer spending!
That’s some really hefty spending power the club’s got going on there with $2.15M/yr in acquisition costs to help separate our talent from the league’s mean. Take away the Medina gaffe and they’re scrimping.....
 
We spent that much on Heber? Wow. Still good business. But wow.

And they’re missing others we’ve purchased like Castellanos and Diego Rodriguez (the fullback)
 
We spent that much on Heber? Wow. Still good business. But wow.

And they’re missing others we’ve purchased like Castellanos and Diego Rodriguez (the fullback)
Who the hell was Diego Rodriguez???
 
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