I don't think so. They certainly didn't do it within a few minutes of the error even though they showed multiple replays and the camera kept lingering on Mitrita. They also did not correct it at the most likely time which would have been coming back from halftime.
They corrected it and joked about confusing the two bald guys.
Would that have been a red card? I wouldn’t think something that was so close as to require VAR could be judged intentional.
If the keeper handles the ball outside of the box and is the last man..... and I’m confused what your definition of “intentional” is if not making the conscious decision to charge off his line and play the ball with his hands? It’s not as if he was just hanging out at the top of the box watching the Jumbotron and looked up to see the play had found him.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Univision did not have any angles that could be used for a VAR on that play.
You are probably right, because Univision, and if so it begs the question why MLS doesn’t mandate the same cameras for each and every match so that all games are contested with the same oversight?
The camera placements and video infrastructure at a given stadium are the same no matter which network is putting their graphics package and commentary over the images.
If the keeper committed a foul via handball outside of the box, not sure what the difference is you’re alluding to if it was close to the line or a yard beyond - a hand ball is a hand ball is a hand ball (hence why you say a free kick is granted), and being last man is a denial of a goal scoring opportunity. Red card.
There's a difference between the keeper playing a ball that he feels is within the box, even if review shows he was an inch outside the box, vs. one that willingly plays the ball well outside the box because they know they misplayed it and they're fucked if they let the ball go past them. The first shouldn't be a red because the player was playing the ball with no intent for an illegal move, but ultimately turned out it was against the rules. A yellow and a free kick is fine. The second is knowingly breaking the rules to prevent a scoring chance, and should be a red.
It’s amazing you’re commenting on something you care not about.
This is surprising coming from you since you post a decent amount about others putting words in your mouth. I don't think he said he didn't care or that it should be shut down. Unless I missed something in his post:
In the other MLS thread I missed quite a bit in my post, so it's possible that's the case here as well. But I don't see him mention that at all.
FredMertz gets in response from the ask the ref sites.
He said it was “not an issue,” after commenting on how amazing it is the amount it’s been debated while nobody from Chicago (to his knowledge) has brought it up. Did he outright say he didn’t care about it, no, but he also wasn’t an active/recent participant in the conversation until that post, so the lack of engagement prior to critique is telling since Mark doesn’t suffer writing posts without a purpose.This is surprising coming from you since you post a decent amount about others putting words in your mouth. I don't think he said he didn't care or that it should be shut down. Unless I missed something in his post:
In the other MLS thread I missed quite a bit in my post, so it's possible that's the case here as well. But I don't see him mention that at all.
What I've gathered here is basically pointing out the notion that this particular play isn't being discussed as controversial anywhere else. It's definitely interesting we are going really in depth about this when Chicago fans aren't.
I personally don't think if he did end up touching it outside the box, but am curious as to what
Doesn’t seem like the guy fully grasped the play, because it wasn’t an issue of a defender stopping a sure goal on the goal line , but rather if SJ didn’t play it then the attacker was positionally able to either shoot or touch the ball past SJ to an area with a wide open net.
It looks like at 34:59 according to the box score as that is when Sean Johnson was credited with a punch just inside the top of the box. As far as video, I'm sure its not in any highlights or anything, so you'd have to go to the stream of the game on Univision's twitter.
