To be fair to him when the person you pass the ball backwards to is Pirlo it would make sense to pass it back, also his position is RCM and not CAM. With the 4-3-3 formation we have used in the last 3 games there is no CAM.Here is lopez passing chart, 4 or 5 successful passes going forward. Everything else backwards or square. Not what you want out of a CAM.
YES, leaving tuesday night to drive out there. with the new BMO stadium should be a great experience, and hopefully a better game. we deserve to beat these guys after the first game.Really bummed to have missed the trip for this one.
Not to skip ahead, but anyone heading to Toronto in 10 days?
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Here is lopez passing chart, 4 or 5 successful passes going forward. Everything else backwards or square. Not what you want out of a CAM.
these past couple of games they haven't been to bad. def bounced back from the horror story they were havingAnybody on 4 cards should take a yellow against Portland. I'd rather the starters miss Toronto than RB. I wanna take it to RB and make their already awful season even worse.
He's not a CAM - he's a DMid playing advanced. I absolutely hate the use of definitive position names - while most do describe in general terms the role of the player (CB marks the forward, striker tries to score goals, etc), they really just describe the placement on the field of the player and not necessarily the specific role. In Lopez's role, he really is a DMid playing in an advanced midfield position - this doesn't mean he is tasked with being creative in the offensive part of the field, rather he's tasked with defensive responsibilities of harassing the opposition in the offensive portion of the field as opposed to Bravo doing the same in the defensive portion. It's a big difference and a way of looking outside of the box - it's kind of like when PepG pushes everybody forward save the two CB's and let's those two quarterback the attack with probing passes - same position name that other teams use but the role is different.View attachment 4865
Here is lopez passing chart, 4 or 5 successful passes going forward. Everything else backwards or square. Not what you want out of a CAM.
I see what you are saying, I just don't see that as a valuable contribution if that is all he does. Doesnt pass to set anyone up, cant keep the ball on the dribble. Doesnt steal the ball from the other team, doesnt score. You dont play someone over a more talented option (and if you dont like mix, poku is better than him too) solely based on hustle with zero other contributions.
We agree that Mix and Poku are more talented. My argument is that Lopez is the only guy that can/will play the role that PV wants out of that position. Mix will never be able to play that position as PV wants. Poku has the ability/speed to do it, but hasn't show the ability to do it.
He's Sebastian Velazquez offensively. A total black hole with limited distribution skills. If we had a strong outlet there, we're more dynamic offensively. But defensively, he's the only guy that's willing to do what PV is asking it appears. I would bet his starting spot is more secure than Bravo, Brillant or Shelton at this point. He fills a very unique role for PV's system.
Mix plays a different style of defense that is based on reaction. Lopez is a wasp that harasses and forces the other player to make a decision before they're ready to - in the last two games we've seen other players make a ton of interceptions of these early passes because they aren't crisp or where the recipient expects them.Do you agree that mix is very good defensively, but you are saying that Lopez does something he doesn't do?
PV's system.
Do you agree that mix is very good defensively, but you are saying that Lopez does something he doesn't do?
Gross.I will go a step further and argue that if PV was the manager last year, when both Mix Diskerud and Brek Shea were available, he would have went for Shea who could have played 1 of 3 positions for him most likely.
Gross.
Because he's a dirty player and not that good?Why? Brek could play as a LW. He's a natural LW and he gets after it defensively.
Not saying I think Brek is a better player, but this isn't a fantasy team. All these pieces need to fit on the field together and right now, the roster constructions isn't ideal.
I see where you are coming from. I disagree with vieira though. I think he's the kind of coach that needs a few losses before he will change anything, despite clear indications he's wrong. Ala Lopez and saundersYes, I agree that Mix is very good defensively. Lopez is a completely different player who fits PV's system better is all. I would imagine that Mix is a like for like replacement with Pirlo in PV's eyes.
I will go a step further and argue that if PV was the manager last year, when both Mix Diskerud and Brek Shea were available, he would have went for Shea who could have played 1 of 3 positions for him most likely.
Because he's a dirty player and not that good?
Because he's a dirty player and not that good?
If Bravo weren't one of us, wouldn't we say the same thing about him?Because he's a dirty player and not that good?
If we had Shea I'd think he was awesome.If Bravo weren't one of us, wouldn't we say the same thing about him?
When they're ours, they're tough. When they're other's they're dirty.
If Bravo weren't one of us, wouldn't we say the same thing about him?
When they're ours, they're tough. When they're other's they're dirty.