Free State Project
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To my mind there's just something inherently wrong to the concept of a load of people trying to fix the laws in a wide area by constantly moving location so that they can swing the vote. Do these people think that they have some kind of divine right to have their opinions count more than anyone else's, just because they are willing to keep moving home to effect the change they want?
Thankfully, to my knowledge, they've never really been able to change that much and probably never will, which placates me to some degree. But still, the very fact that this exists is troubling.
Thankfully, to my knowledge, they've never really been able to change that much and probably never will, which placates me to some degree. But still, the very fact that this exists is troubling.
I'm having trouble understanding this. Are these guys Libertarians? Neo-Cons? Pseudo Chicago Boys? Can a small town in New Hampshire absorb a 20,000 spontaneous employment burden? Or are they going to be starting a Pure Socialist community where everyone is a contributor to the pot? Who then divvies the pot; So is it now a Communist society?
einwindir has a good point. My limited understanding is however that the project is about loosening the shackles of the nanny state (Government) and letting adults make there own decisions in life.
In principle I believe lessening the red tape and pointless laws (such as stopping smoking in bars... Which is purely a matter for the business owner / customers and not the government) is great. However like einwindir I am not sure of how the logistics would work.
My limited understanding is however that the project is about loosening the shackles of the nanny state (Government) and letting adults make there own decisions in life.
In principle I believe lessening the red tape and pointless laws (such as stopping smoking in bars... Which is purely a matter for the business owner / customers and not the government) is great. However like einwindir I am not sure of how the logistics would work.
Correct, in essence it is enhancing the principles of New Hampshire that were already in place prior to NH being selected as the location, it was also selected due to size and how much power a block of 20,000 could have on elections, I believe Montana was the runner up when they voted.
This ecperiment has been happening for decades, its called the Amish.
That said, yeah, you can have your little utopian society as long as everyone consciously agrees to it. But what happens when you have 300 million+ people, some of whom have never even considered the situation?
Also, what happens when someone in this Utopia gets sick and can't pull their weight? Going to ship them back out into the dystopian society? What happens when a bleeding heart from within says we should take care of this person with our resources? Then, you start right back down the slippery slope to where society sits now...
That said, yeah, you can have your little utopian society as long as everyone consciously agrees to it. But what happens when you have 300 million+ people, some of whom have never even considered the situation?
Also, what happens when someone in this Utopia gets sick and can't pull their weight? Going to ship them back out into the dystopian society? What happens when a bleeding heart from within says we should take care of this person with our resources? Then, you start right back down the slippery slope to where society sits now...
This is the thing though. They aren't just looking at sectioning themselves away from society like the Amish - they could do that anywhere. What they're trying to do is to take over an area to institute their ideas there. If they were successful, and I don't think they ever would be but who knows, then their plan would involve taking over the government of some or all of NH before potentially trying to declare independence. What they don't seem to care for is what the native NHers who are not affiliated to the project think about being taken on this journey into liberty.
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