Giving People What They Want

[CP_Scouse]

BACKSTORY: last Friday my school held a local derby with our rival school. the home supporters were on one side of the basketball court, and on the other side was the other schools' supporters. both groups were going at it, chanting at each other. it sounded like a soccer match (with only the same chant with different words added). upon coming to school today i asked my friends what they thought of the atmosphere at the game. they all said they enjoyed it. i showed them a video of atmospheres in the EPL and that too got them a bit excited. then i told them about NYCFC and they said they would definitely go to games.

now what im trying to say here is: by ditching the English style way of supporting, you isolate fans.

1. When you add the drums and the horns, you take away a fans opportunity to participate, why would you be loud if there is a drum and trumpet doing it for you?
2. why be like EVERY other MLS supporter?
3. isnt new york all about being different? and creating new trends?

 

[BxLio91]

Why cant we be a mix of both if we have a lot of euro centric and South Americans in NYC? That could only reflect the city's soccer culture.

 

[CP_Scouse]

Why cant we be a mix

Mix?

 

[einwindir]

You're fighting a losing battle. It is inevitable that there will be heavy American influences in gameday atmosphere. Even if Third Rail sticks to the English style, there are other supporters groups who may want to use drums and horns.

I would suggest getting in with the supporter groups and making your case there.

 

[CP_Scouse]

You're fighting a losing battle. It is inevitable that there will be heavy American influences in gameday atmosphere. Even if Third Rail sticks to the English style, there are other supporters groups who may want to use drums and horns.

I would suggest getting in with the supporter groups and making your case there.

this issue needs to be seen by more than just support groups.

 

[einwindir]

this issue needs to be seen by more than just support groups.

But they are the ones who set the precedent. Casual fans aren't the ones that will be bringing drums.

 

[Tom in Fairfield CT]

Keep fighting the good fight scouse

 

[CP_Scouse]

But they are the ones who set the precedent. Casual fans aren't the ones that will be bringing drums.

the casual fan will be drowned out by drums. the casual fan wouldnt want to join in if they're drums.

 

[CP_Scouse]

Keep fighting the good fight scouse

 

[franchise646]

the casual fan will be drowned out by drums. the casual fan wouldnt want to join in if they're drums.

There are casual Latino fans that want to see a drums section (mostly me and my friends).

 

[CP_Scouse]

There are casual Latino fans that want to see a drums section (mostly me and my friends).

why?

 

[mrplow2000]

You cant push or expect a style, it will evolve to become your own.
It might start off as mayhem but eventually it will settle as people see ideas work and the most popular will rise.
There will be ones you have no feeling for, stupid songs that take off and good ones, for whatever reason, will fall.
The songs will reflect your experiences as you go along.
I'll bet you now, it wont be what your thinking.

 

[franchise646]

why?

Cause that is what we like and we aren't English nor do we style ourselves to be.

 

[CP_Scouse]

Cause that is what we like and we aren't English nor do we style ourselves to be.

but dont you feel that the drums kinda ruin it for the people who dont know the chants?

 

[mrplow2000]

but dont you feel that the drums kinda ruin it for the people who dont know the chants?

You wont know until you try.

The South Americans have some brilliant sounds and songs.

 

[franchise646]

but dont you feel that the drums kinda ruin it for the people who dont know the chants?

Not at all, the drums give you a beat to follow. Even if you don't what is being sung you have a beat you have rhythm, New York is a place with soul if this is a true New York team then lets show our soul.

 

[Drainyoo]

I don't understand the point of this thread.

 

[Brandon Martinez]

drums are a vital part in creating a loud and organized atmosphere and If it's just one drummer it's shouldn't be a problem. It's all about the organization

 

[CP_Scouse]

@franchise646 @mrplow2000 @Brandon Martinez

but when you have drummers playing a certain rhythm, then spontaneous chants like this cant happen

 

[Brandon Martinez]

Me being Latino and a big bundesliga fan I'm all in for drums they have the best support check out some dortmund fan videos or San Lorenzo form Argentina