Taty has 6 goals on 13 xG. As much as I criticize Major League Soccer dot com’s Doyle - think he has a point here:
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Taty has 6 goals on 13 xG. As much as I criticize Major League Soccer dot com’s Doyle - think he has a point here:
Hate to say it but i think Doyle has a point and it's basicaly how I am feeling about Taty. He needs to convert just a few more at the right time. That would probably make the MLS world stand up and notice.
Back to the Pumas debacle. The angle I saw on the offsides not good enough for definitive call cause he looked fine. Question though and I'm sorry if this was mentioned. Did the flag go up?
Did a flag go up on the "handball"?
I'm getting the sense that no official on the field called anything but then someone in a tiny room somewhere fudged around?
Back to the Pumas debacle. The angle I saw on the offsides not good enough for definitive call cause he looked fine. Question though and I'm sorry if this was mentioned. Did the flag go up?
Did a flag go up on the "handball"?
I'm getting the sense that no official on the field called anything but then someone in a tiny room somewhere fudged around?
I still expect there to be some regression to the mean, but using his first year when he joined midseason and only had 487 minutes is maybe a stretch.
But even still, I'd rather have Taty underperform xG and continue to get in the positions he does than almost any other striker that gets in less dangerous positions not nearly as often and overperforms xG.
Again, some have called this a "nerd stat", but Taty is 4th in MLS in Goals + Assists. Not xG, or G+. But has scored or assisted on actual goals.
Also interestingly, Taty is one of the best in MLS in putting his shots on frame. He's tied for 3rd in Shot on Target % (among players with more than 40 shots), ahead of guys like Vela, Ruidiaz, Mukhtar, Salloi, Buksa, Zelarayan.
That said, his decision to take an extra touch last night early in the first half when he was played through was a terrible one and it cost us. But I still think that if he were to stay in MLS at least two more years, one of them will be a 20+ goal season.
Right. I meant that if they take a look for a handball and they spot a foul, they can call the fall, right? They're not just limited to what they were looking for originall.
I can't argue stats but multiple games including the last 2 show that we're wasteful in front of goal. I want us to be pragmatic. I want us to be clinical. I don't want to have teams on the ropes all game only to give them an opening and shit the bed.
My point is we don't score goals when we need to. Our performances in playoffs and other knockout games is proof.
no flags on either. VAR overturned the calls on the field.
they should be looking at all possible events that they have authority to review under VAR guidelines and making a priority decision as to which overrides which, or if both apply equally.
with the handball, they SHOULD HAVE reviewed for (1) handball resulting in the goal and (2) straight red for dogso
If you prioritize, they're probably somewhat equal. If you let the goal stand, you cancel the dogso straight red and teams continue with 11 players. if you overturn the goal, then you should have to give the red for dogso and pumas is down to 10. neither of these takes into consideration the fact that the alleged handball was anywhere remotely within the same universe as "clear and obvious" enough to overturn the goal. As others have mentioned, pumas not even arguing about it and the AR not raising the flag on it, are some evidence of that.
but in the end, it seems clear to me that VAR only took the first situation into consideration and didn't think there was any inclination of dogso. This is just poor refereeing and we got robbed. i really think VAR transcripts should be made public so they can be scrutinized for more accountability because they clearly aren't being used by the refs to learn and improve.
i could be very wrong of rules but the only argument i can even think of here is: defensive foul--> advantage ---> leads to goal. end of of defensive foul as it ended in goal and advantage was given ( so no penalty). now goal is reviewed, used hand for scoring....so no goal. seen as two separate plays.
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Let's assume the right call was made (which I still contest).
The "handball" comes before the DOGSO, which is why it's not that I think.
But we've seen instances similar to this one where a goal was disallowed and a penalty was given instead. There is precedence, so this case must be different, or VAR overlooked it.
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That video does pretty clearly show the ball hitting his hand, but they didn't have that angle in the VAR, and we still haven't seen evidence that it was a clear and obvious error based on the video they had.
i cant think of one, if anyone has one show it. i think its a situation i always wondered what happens, but its rare i guess, especially since there was instance of a handball here even if it feels like bare touch.
this is a far criticism of VAR not just here but across the world. They dont show the feeds the VAR refs use/ or have access to.
I remember a situation like this happening.... was trying to find it now but I can't seem to find it.
... Reading this post.... damn, you can feel the weight on Maxi's shoulders here.
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I don't excuse the penalty miss but.... you gotta feel bad for the guy, he knows he let everyone down. The (again) gives that away :/
i think since 2019 it was getting to him when he started missing them. so he is very conscious of the penalty misses.
How do we know this bolded part?
I think we kind of agree but I just hate to give in to the irrationality (at least knowingly -- I have my own confirmation bias issue).
But too many people want to argue the xG point but ignore the actual goals this team scores. This team literally scores goals at a pace better than any team in the league. I get it. You still want more. I do too! But pointing to that as the problem when we actually lag in other areas is -- look, fans are entitled to focus on what they want - but I think it's worth pointing out when other problems explain things better. It's almost impossible to find a post-game discussion among fans of any soccer team anywhere where bad finishing, bad officiating, or the coach wasn't the go-to, most popular explanation for ongoing disappointment. And sure, sometimes those actually are the reasons. But not all the time. And we have pretty strong evidence that our problem is not how much we score. We score in weird bunches with more 1, 4 or 5 goals games than 2 or 3. We concede too many goals for the number of shots we allow.
Finally, our our inefficiency is statistically unfathomable and borderline comical. NYCFC scores an average of 1.88 goals per game.
- The record when NYCFC allows 1 goal is 3 wins and 2 draws. OK, but should be even better I think given almost 1.9 G/Gm.
- We've never conceded more than 3 goals all year. We allowed 3 goals just once, and 2 goals 5 times. And in those six games the record is 0 wins, 1 draw, and 5 losses, because NYCFC averages just 1.33 goals scored in those games.
- On the other hand, when NYCFC earns a clean sheet they score, on average, 2.8 goals per game.
- The flip side of that is that it is easy to list 7-8 opponent goals this season and argue our keepers reasonably should have saved maybe half of them, and not one of those opponent goals happened in a game where it didn't matter. Both defense and offense have failed to make that one score or save that would get more points in games when it would mean points, and both excel when the other does also. Johnson's best game both by eye test and stats was 5-0 over Cincinnati. He stood on his head 2-3 times. But we scored 5 and he could have allowed 3 howlers with no loss of points. Last night he allowed a slow roller in regular play that gave Pumas the regulation draw, then he heroically saved 2 on target PKs but his teammates could not do their part. It's uncanny.
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You're 100% right on this, see previous post.
