MLS Cup Playoffs - November 23 - Red Bulls (Home)

it took me this long to recover from the game enough to come on this forum. To be honest, it felt like I went to an away game on Saturday. From start to finish their supporters were louder and to be honest, I think they bought all the seats. Most of the regulars around me weren’t there and by 5 minutes in I realized I was surrounded by RB fans.

Add to that where we need to do better with our chants and they created an environment where the home field advantage was gone. Do we need a better schedule of the chants or better songs? I’m not sure what the answer is but that experience sucked

Yeah, I was in 107 and it was a little better there -- I definitely made sure to be on the right field side because I knew their supporters were in left field and wanted to be as far away from them as possible. You could absolutely tell the left-field side was packed with Red Bulls fans.

Had nothing to do with the schedule of songs, or involving the rest of the stadium or anything like that. Our supporters stopped singing when the game was 2-0. I was right next to them -- they stopped singing. It was an embarrassing display from them, all the way from the lack of singing to the bottles being thrown postgame. Just a humiliating way to end the season.
 
I was in 328, and it was miserable. We were completely surrounded by them. I left early because I didn't want to hear them any more and I knew we weren't making a comeback.
 
Alonso Martinez had 8 goals on 11 SOG in the final 9 regular season games.

In the postseason, he had 1 goal on 6 SOG, 3 of those SOG coming against the Red Bulls.

That's the ballgame. Just an unlucky stretch -- and game -- for our striker. His 6 shots and 3 SOG were both tied for his most in a game with NYCFC.
 
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I was in 328, and it was miserable. We were completely surrounded by them. I left early because I didn't want to hear them any more and I knew we weren't making a comeback.
I left early as my son and his friend were freezing and likewise knew there was no way we were scoring 2 , but mainly because I didn’t want to spend 2 hours trying to get out the parking lot
 
I don't think we were priced out and they weren't.

I don't think it was a bigger deal to them than to us.

I think more of them showed up with more energy because if you asked the fans ahead of the game I think their fans would have had way more confidence. They showed up in greater numbers with more energy because they believed. Some few of us showed up relatively quiet by comparison (even before the first goal) because we hoped. We didn't believe. We hoped for what was possible. But we didn't really believe.
 
I was in 107, right next to Supporters, and after the second goal they stopped singing. The drumming continued, but there was very little singing. Even in that section, I could hear the Red Bulls supporters.

Let's be honest -- let's call it straight -- our supporters are very immature. Throwing things at Red Bulls players taunting us postgame, getting quiet in an elimination game because we're sad -- we really don't have a great supporters section. I watched the end of the LAFC game last night, they were singing in the 120th minute while trailing. Why can't we? The crowd was waiting to explode -- even in the 2nd half, you could feel the entire place was waiting to explode if we scored. It just never came.

Also some of the blame here goes to NYCFC. They priced tickets for last night absurdly high, and it sure looks like a lot of NYCFC fans stayed home. There was a ton of Red Bulls fans there -- it was at least 70-30.

I'm so mad at the supporters for how they acted after the game. I know Tolkin was taunting. I know that sucks. But you can't start throwing things on the field. I loved the way Maxi handled it. He went over and defended us. That's the way it should be. Throwing cans and bottles onto the field is so childish and immature. It was a humiliating way for the season to end, and it's not an isolated incident. We need to learn how to lose with class.
In 2022 I joined the Third Rail for the away tickets deal, to support the supporters section etc. I thought it might be fun to kick the tires, get a little more involved, etc. Maybe go to an away match.

Well my first and only away match was the cup match at RBA. The tailgate was supposed to be food and beer but it was basically just free unlimited shots of hudson whiskey, (in short poorly organized) then when we went into the stadium the supporters chose to mostly harass the very patient RBA security. Did I mention that the core support seemed like a bunch of stupid plástico bros play acting something they might have seen in the UK version of High Fidelity?

When we went down a couple of goals our supporters started showering the crowd below with beer and worse, beer cans. It was the first match home or away that I ever left before 90’ and I’m glad I did because it turned into a mini riot.

After the match accountability was negligible.

Needless to say I didn’t re-up.

The other thing that really grinds my gears is that our chants are recycled metro chants. Nothing site specific, nothing player specific, nothing unique to NYC. No character or creativity. Prior to the team launch I had tried to inject some ideas but the in crowd at the time just ridiculed them. Their loss.

I still love this team. I love the way they play even when they lose (vs. RBNJ chaos ball). But our supporters groups have always sucked at best. The other night was just the full flower of their incompetence.

P.S. that we even ever had an alleged nazi issue is a stain that doesn’t seem to wash out and the more I see, the more I understand why.

Still support the team, but TR and Templados can pound sand and take Jovan with them.
 
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Hard disagree. That stadium location is terrible.

Maybe it's a decent location for people who live in New Jersey, but if you live in NY and have to cross the GWB, it's miserable to try to get there and takes forever. It is at least an hour for me to get there from Westchester, and the traffic is usually very annoying.
 
RBA is a good location is you live in Manhattan, midtown or lower, and maybe UWS. Also of course NJ.
Everywhere else it's between annoying and a nightmare.
RBA is absolutely putrid to get to from Brooklyn and Queens. Via public transit it’s a long MTA ride and then the Path. Driving is an absolute nightmare to cross both rivers to get there - it can take 1.5 hours with heavy traffic.

I went to Red Bulls games (before NYCFC existed) from Brooklyn and it was rough when you literally spent more time in transit than the length of time at the game.
 
I’m not gonna lie… getting to RBA is usually easier to get to than Citifield from downtown Brooklyn…
 
I’m not gonna lie… getting to RBA is usually easier to get to than Citifield from downtown Brooklyn…

The Whitestone just murders me nearly every single game coming from Westchester. Traffic to Citi Field (and Etihad Park) usually sucks.
 
Living near World Trade Center makes it easy to get to the PATH to RBA. It's a 25 minute train and no need to transfer in PATH. The only thing is that the train schedule is really terrible on the weekend, especially if there's working. I remember it was a 40 minute wait between trains on one of the NYCFC "home" games there this year.

If you can take the subway to get to the World Trade Center easier or transfer in Journal Square sure, you may arrive to PATH between 25 to 120 minutes, depending on the transfer schedule. That's a long time.
 
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I bet Maxi wishes he had taken a full swing at Tolkin now and gotten his money's worth:

 
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I bet Maxi wishes he had taken a full swing at Tolkin now and gotten his money's worth:

They really gloss over the fact that the first thing Tolkin did was run over to the SS and start taunting.
 
RBA is absolutely putrid to get to from Brooklyn and Queens. Via public transit it’s a long MTA ride and then the Path. Driving is an absolute nightmare to cross both rivers to get there - it can take 1.5 hours with heavy traffic.

I went to Red Bulls games (before NYCFC existed) from Brooklyn and it was rough when you literally spent more time in transit than the length of time at the game.
I think the secret to getting to RBA is NJ Transit. Penn Station to Newark in 18 minutes, $12 round trip, then a 20-or-so minute walk to the stadium. I went to see the Gotham FC playoff match a few weeks ago and was totally able to avoid PATH construction and a very long trip via Hoboken. If I ever go there again that's the way I'm going to do it. And the match was fantastic, felt like I got to see almost half of the USWNT.
 
I’m not gonna lie… getting to RBA is usually easier to get to than Citifield from downtown Brooklyn…
I don’t get this. The F to the 7 from Park slope to Citi is faster than the F to the A to the PATH to Harrison. Not to mention getting back is easier at all times. And I’m coming from farther from both than Downtown Brooklyn.