The 2016 season hasn't started yet - the Black Away jersey should still be valid.
NYCFC Academy - General Discussion
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ok a bit more info. Our goal was scored by Justin Haak.
starting line up was this: 24 ALEX RANDO, 5 NICO BENALCAZAR, 4 WILL CITRON, 18 VELJKO PETKOVIC, 9 EDER MOSQUERA, 8 COLMAN KIM, 6 JUSTIN HAAK, 11 BALTHAZAR SAUNDERS, 16 ALEXSI MOREL, 13 GIO REYNA Y 7 SALVATORE RASIZZI.
i dont know the positions.
ah they have a facebook page but its in spanish for the tournament.
https://www.facebook.com/Academiatahuichi/
they beat a team from guatemala called Menedy 5-0
they tied against millonarios (colombia) 1-1
they lost first game to a bolivian team called Florida (2-1) no video
https://www.facebook.com/Academiatahuichi/posts/1122611931096805
https://www.facebook.com/Academiatahuichi/
they beat a team from guatemala called Menedy 5-0
they tied against millonarios (colombia) 1-1
they lost first game to a bolivian team called Florida (2-1) no video
https://www.facebook.com/Academiatahuichi/posts/1122611931096805
From this tournament I've learned that kid goalkeepers are terrible.
What happens when our academy grows up? Like will Reyna Jr. still be playing for NYCFC at age 17,18,21, etc?
what happens in other MLS academies? do they go to college? or do they go to their USL team? and then go to first team?
It depends on the kid. Are they good enough for first team or only USL? do they want to go to college and get an education instead of, or before, pursuing soccer? An example is RB - they have promoted a number to their first team, and this year looks to be stocking their RB2 side with home-grown.
so they arent going to college then? going to RBII and hope to be good enough to make it pro? i was just asking since it seems like every american in MLS went academy--->college----> Pro and none went from academy ---> pro ,
I believe that Matt Miazga, who is 20 years old, did not go to college. Straight from the academy to the first team.
It all depends on the kid and what they want (coupled with if the club thinks they're talented enough) whether it's college or straight to the pros (USL or MLS for the studs). My guess is that more go to college than don't, but that could change in the future if it's financially worth it to sign a pro contract right away. Most likely, the USL caliber players will probably go to College first and then be grabbed as a home-grown by the club to stick them on the USL team without fear of them being drafted.
I'm asking though since we don't have a true academy in place (NYCFC 2, U21, U18, etc.), we only have this one U13/14 team, what happens if the kids grow up faster than our pace to build an academy?
I think the assumption is the academy grows with this first class. The USSDA is on a fall-spring schedule, so we may be launching a U15/16 this fall, as a couple of players will turn 15 this spring.
There's also two kids from our affiliate clubs on the U15 USBNT listed here: http://www.ussoccer.com/us-under15-boys-national-team/roster (Sands and Ritaccio). Maybe we can pull them into a new U15/16 team this fall, as well as fill out the U13/14 team with a new crop of youngsters.
Exactly this. The whole point is that every year the kids advance, we create a new age category for them to be promoted into. The idea is that every single academy player who ever graduates to the senior team will have by default been all the way through the academy system.
I still think the team needs a catch-all older type team to be able to grab talented NYC homegrown players for the next 5 years until the original 13/14 graduate.
More than anything else - Stadium, high profile signings, early success - the one thing I have the highest hopes for would be our Academy set-up.
I will be floored if our academy set up isn't turning out a Miazga/Zardes type talent every year 5 years from now. That's one area in MLS where your investment dollars can pay major dividends - especially with the resources being provided. I am disappointed they don't have a training ground yet to recruit the best players to.
And can international players join MLS academies? Meaning - can a 15 year from Buenos Aires join the Academy?
I will be floored if our academy set up isn't turning out a Miazga/Zardes type talent every year 5 years from now. That's one area in MLS where your investment dollars can pay major dividends - especially with the resources being provided. I am disappointed they don't have a training ground yet to recruit the best players to.
And can international players join MLS academies? Meaning - can a 15 year from Buenos Aires join the Academy?
I'm not sure that you can seriously have a "catch-all older type team" to cover the entire gap from above u-14 to just below senior level. I know you sometimes hear of 16-year olds being pushed into u-18 or u-19 teams and 14-year old playing for u-16 teams, but the idea of having to run a team covering the entire category of 14 to 21 just doesn't work - you couldn't seriously do that without at least three teams, and by the time you realise that you see it's actually quite a major infrastructure undertaking.
And then on top of that, even if you do insist on just running the one team, there's the question of what competition it can feasibly play in when it caters to players of many ages. If they join a u-17 competition, they can't play anyone over that age. If they join a u-18 league, the 14-year olds are going to get mullered by the older kids. etc etc.
Oh, I don't know about that..... I can tell you that where I grew up in Florida, there were kids 2&3 years younger playing together on the U18 travel team - some were just that good. NYCFC needs a U18 team that can absorb talented kids not on the original 13/14 team and give them a structure to play under for the minimum year needed before they head off to college so that they can be tagged as HG. Not all will be good enough afte that year to be HG, but making them eligible so that after 1-4 years of college they can be nabbed without the draft is too valuable to miss out on.
Yeah, but were you playing for a professional team? At lower levels it's common for the one outstanding player to be able to match players three or four years older than them. In a professional club's academy you expect the entire academy to be made up of those players who were standing out for their local club's teams with players much older.
Incidentally, even for professional academies it's common for players to be able to play with players two years older than them. However, three or certainly four years doesn't happen - and the thing is it's not just technical skill. I'm not sure I would want to see a 14-year old playing consistently with 18-year olds. I'm not sure that they would be able to stand up to the tackles of much older kids.
No question not every player can do it, but if there's a 15 or 16 yo kid that has the chops to play with 17yo, because the max age for a U-18 is only 17, and the coaches, parents, and kid want to do it, then they'd be allowed on to the team (rather than just playing with one of our affiliated clubs. If they're not ready for the physical demands, then they wait until they're older, but that would still take place before our original 13/14 team makes it to 18. This ad-hoc team would only be needed for a few years, but without it we're potentially wasting opportunities to sign HG players. The pipeline has to start somewhere, which it is with the 13/14 team, but that shouldn't be at the expense of older talented kids that want the NYCFC connection.
