NYCFC Players Wanted Thread

[sbrylski]

On loan at Girona

I'm guessing we are going to see CFG make a lot more signings like this in the next few windows and start spraying those players out to NYCFC, Melbourne, Torque, and Girona.

Olarenwaju Kayode looks good on a glance, hopefully he's at Girona temporarily and is an option for us.

 

[Futbolkicks]

Glenn Crooks‏@GlennCrooks
From @arieljudas, CFG has added 23-yr old Argentine CB Nicolás Freire & loaned him to Dutch side PEC Zwolle-future #NYCFC? @MLSTransfers

Glenn Crooks‏@GlennCrooks
Freire played for Argentinos Juniors where Diego Maradona emerged as pro player - recently promoted to 1st Division #NYCFC @MLSTransfers

 

[SoupInNYC]

Zlatan is still a free agent. How many games left in the season would we need in order to have his pro-rated cap hit be within our range?

 

[sbrylski]

Glenn Crooks‏@GlennCrooks
From @arieljudas, CFG has added 23-yr old Argentine CB Nicolás Freire & loaned him to Dutch side PEC Zwolle-future #NYCFC? @MLSTransfers

Glenn Crooks‏@GlennCrooks
Freire played for Argentinos Juniors where Diego Maradona emerged as pro player - recently promoted to 1st Division #NYCFC @MLSTransfers

A stable of Callens, Chanot, Freire, Ferraresi, and White in a 3-man backline system in 2017? Sounds good to me.

 

[Kjbert]

The Ferraresi signing is incredibly interesting to me. He's a right sided Callens. You aren't sitting Chanot. I don't think you are sitting Callens. CFG isn't loaning a kid here to sit on the bench. There has to be a formation shift then next year.

That will dictate DP plans as well. If Herrera is here, can you play 3-4-3 with Maxi and Harrison tucked underneath Villa a la Chelsea? If he isn't, do you need a replacement for him? Do you play 3-5-2 and buy a CF or RWB?

The Ferraresi news, if ultimately true, is very telling for what next year is going to look like.

 

[dannd23]

The Ferraresi signing is incredibly interesting to me. He's a right sided Callens. You aren't sitting Chanot. I don't think you are sitting Callens. CFG isn't loaning a kid here to sit on the bench. There has to be a formation shift then next year.

That will dictate DP plans as well. If Herrera is here, can you play 3-4-3 with Maxi and Harrison tucked underneath Villa a la Chelsea? If he isn't, do you need a replacement for him? Do you play 3-5-2 and buy a CF or RWB?

The Ferraresi news, if ultimately true, is very telling for what next year is going to look like.

Let us not get overly excited about Ferraresi just yet as a player. Outside of being a Venezuela U20 the expectations that his impact will be as big as Herrera are overblown. Ferraresi has zero senior appearances for club or country. Herrera has 2 for Venezuela senior team and over 60 caps prior to joining NYCFC dating back to 2014.

That is not to say that he won't end up being a player, but slotting him into a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 when he has never even made a cap at the senior level in Venezuela is incredibly premature.

 

[Kjbert]

Let us not get overly excited about Ferraresi just yet as a player. Outside of being a Venezuela U20 the expectations that his impact will be as big as Herrera are overblown. Ferraresi has zero senior appearances for club or country. Herrera has 2 for Venezuela senior team and over 60 caps prior to joining NYCFC dating back to 2014.

That is not to say that he won't end up being a player, but slotting him into a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 when he has never even made a cap at the senior level in Venezuela is incredibly premature.

Totally fair. My opinion is based off of watching him player. I haven't seen all his tape, but I've seen him play 4 matches and watched tape on him. I'm all in. He reminds me a bit of Ramiro Funes Mori at Everton. He's very good with the ball at his feet and he's good in the air. I have no clue if he can defend.

 

[dannd23]

Totally fair. My opinion is based off of watching him player. I haven't seen all his tape, but I've seen him play 4 matches and watched tape on him. I'm all in. He reminds me a bit of Ramiro Funes Mori at Everton. He's very good with the ball at his feet and he's good in the air. I have no clue if he can defend.

Good to know. I've admittedly only seen him play a game and a half at the U20 level and TBH I wasn't looking for him so he didn't stand out in my mind as player. If he ends up being a player like Funes Mori we will have gotten a good one.

 

[EganSoccerWords]

Good to know. I've admittedly only seen him play a game and a half at the U20 level and TBH I wasn't looking for him so he didn't stand out in my mind as player. If he ends up being a player like Funes Mori we will have gotten a good one.

Not a bad thing if a CB doesn't stand out.

 

[sbrylski]

The Ferraresi signing is incredibly interesting to me. He's a right sided Callens. You aren't sitting Chanot. I don't think you are sitting Callens. CFG isn't loaning a kid here to sit on the bench. There has to be a formation shift then next year.

That will dictate DP plans as well. If Herrera is here, can you play 3-4-3 with Maxi and Harrison tucked underneath Villa a la Chelsea? If he isn't, do you need a replacement for him? Do you play 3-5-2 and buy a CF or RWB?

The Ferraresi news, if ultimately true, is very telling for what next year is going to look like.

Echoing dannd23, I'm not ready to pencil in someone like Ferraresi as a starter and say "problem solved." If we make a 3-man backline our primary system, we should have four starting caliber centerbacks anyway.

If we play a flat 3-4-3 with Maxi on the wing, even if we keep Herrera, Matarrita, and Harrison, we are still short two CB (assuming Brillant is jettisoned) a 3rd CM, a starting RM, and probably another depth player on the right. Maybe another striker depending on your opinion of Okoli.

The league is changing fast and it's going to change even faster at the rate we are adding TAM. Most starters league wide are ripe for replacement in a year or two unless they take significant steps forward. I really think the league's growth will outpace the average growth of individual players. We've already seen Shelton go from potential-to-start to potential-to-be-a-bench-player. We have seen TMac go from quality starter to completely outclassed.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

OK, not sure if there's a rule against that but I expect MLS would step in. It crosses lines that the Herrera loan deal doesn't. Also, CFG wants each club to run at a profit on its own.If MC starts buying players and selling them at a loss to NYC, MC is sabotaging itself. It also has to contend with FFP, which has fewer teeth than expected, but cannot be completely ignored. Taking million $ losses doesn't help.

They could give NYC a buy option that is higher than what they paid and lower than the price they expect to re-sell. Roster compliance only comes into play in the regular season, so we could buy Herrera, for example, in the offseason for 4 million (double the price) and sell for 3x his price (hypothetically) in the January window. Never violates anything - not even the number of clubs to which he can be registered in a season.

 

[Falastur]

Glenn Crooks‏@GlennCrooks
From @arieljudas, CFG has added 23-yr old Argentine CB Nicolás Freire & loaned him to Dutch side PEC Zwolle-future #NYCFC? @MLSTransfers

Glenn Crooks‏@GlennCrooks
Freire played for Argentinos Juniors where Diego Maradona emerged as pro player - recently promoted to 1st Division #NYCFC @MLSTransfers

Worth noting two things about this deal:

1 - PEC Zwolle are managed by a former Melbourne City manager.
2 - According to reports, Zwolle are about to sell a CB to Melbourne City.

Sounds like more of a rates-for-mates like-for-like swap to me. It's possible that Freire may go to another CFG club after a year in Holland, but it's equally possible that he gets sold on to them or otherwise pensioned off.

 

[gbservis]

The Ferraresi signing is incredibly interesting to me. He's a right sided Callens. You aren't sitting Chanot. I don't think you are sitting Callens. CFG isn't loaning a kid here to sit on the bench. There has to be a formation shift then next year.

That will dictate DP plans as well. If Herrera is here, can you play 3-4-3 with Maxi and Harrison tucked underneath Villa a la Chelsea? If he isn't, do you need a replacement for him? Do you play 3-5-2 and buy a CF or RWB?

The Ferraresi news, if ultimately true, is very telling for what next year is going to look like.

We've played players that have historically been CBs (Hernandez, White) at RB since PV took over. It's possible we change formations but seems just as possible that PV likes playing a defensive CB type at RB and Ferraresi is just an upgrade at RB.

 

[sbrylski]

We've played players that have historically been CBs (Hernandez, White) at RB since PV took over. It's possible we change formations but seems just as possible that PV likes playing a defensive CB type at RB and Ferraresi is just an upgrade at RB.

Or it means Vieira really wants to play 3 at the back, but doesn't have the personnel to do it.

 

[Kjbert]

What's the appeal to 3 in the back? I don't know soccer tactics like all of you. Is it to get the most attackers on the field?

 

[NickA]

What's the appeal to 3 in the back? I don't know soccer tactics like all of you. Is it to get the most attackers on the field?

Watching Juventus play a 3-5-2 for a while, what I've learned was it can be both very offensive and equally defensive. The left and right mids can drop back like wing backs and suffocate opponents. They play a hybrid role. With five in the midfield you can control possession. You can push them up and still have 3 back coverage. Plus you still have a DM floating. It's very adaptable. But you need the right personnel for it to work.

 

[BlueWarrior]

If ring leaves maybe we go for John bostock from lens. Contact up in 2018. Transfered to lend for 150 k. Could also hang as a defensive mid .


A player id like us to spend good money on and would require a transfer fee plus DP salary is Bas Dost. He and villa would be a scary good tandem .

 

[Tom in Fairfield CT]

What's the appeal to 3 in the back? I don't know soccer tactics like all of you. Is it to get the most attackers on the field?

You are taking off an attacker for a CB. But it's the new shiny thing so everyone is obsessed with it.

 

[Ulrich]

You are taking off an attacker for a CB. But it's the new shiny thing so everyone is obsessed with it.

Not really. The best wingbacks are actually wingers playing defense. So you're removing a fullback and adding in an extra striker.

And it's not the new shiny thing, been around forever. Bradley won his first MLS Cup using it in the inaugural season at Chicago. And he didn't invent it.

 

[Tom in Fairfield CT]

Not really. The best wingbacks are actually wingers playing defense. So you're removing a fullback and adding in an extra striker.

And it's not the new shiny thing, been around forever. Bradley won his firstborn MLS Cup using it in the inaugural season at Chicago. And he didn't invent it.

It looks like that because the teams that use it in unbalanced leagues are sharks vs minnows. Against an equal opponent the "wingbacks" are fullbacks.

And nothing is new under the sun, but its shiny new because its in fashion presently.