Queens has an annual ridership of 245,692,630 and Brooklyn has 372,392,182. I am also from NYC and have taken every single train except the 7 train, and if youre in the city and ask most people they would say the same along with the G train. Brooklyn ridership went up 15 million compared to the 5 million queens went. If they build a stadium in Queens the only good spot will be VERY west before all the trains split up. Manhattan would be the best place or Near Yankee Stadium. Queens to most New Yorkers is a headache waiting to happen.
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Queens has an annual ridership of 245,692,630 and Brooklyn has 372,392,182. I am also from NYC and have taken every single train except the 7 train, and if youre in the city and ask most people they would say the same along with the G train. Brooklyn ridership went up 15 million compared to the 5 million queens went. If they build a stadium in Queens the only good spot will be VERY west before all the trains split up. Manhattan would be the best place or Near Yankee Stadium. Queens to most New Yorkers is a headache waiting to happen.
They sold it to Related and they are building office buildings and apartments. I believe you are referring to the Westside Railyards. If that stadium had actually been built, then I imagine NYCFC would just rent it out and use that for the long-term. NYCFC could fill up football stadiums just like the Sounders -- especially in that location.
Pier 40 was talked about, once upon a time. It's on the Hudson next to Greenwich Village and SoHo. That would be a fantastic location.
My pipe dream is that they build it in Central Park right where Sheep's Meadow is. You built it into the ground so it doesn't stick out too much. Put a grass area on top of the roof that covers the stands so you'd still have a usable public park space. You'd have to fence around the opening above the pitch. You could use it for concerts, the marathon, all kinds of other sporting events. It only has to have a capacity of less than 25,000, so it shouldn't be too tall. You could set up concessions similar to Barclays center where there are entrances on the outside of the stadium so they could still be open even when games aren't underway. Make the concessions share profit with the Central Park Conservatory. I think with a good architect, you could build something that will be the crown jewel of the city for years to come -- just like MSG has been.
I know it will never ever, ever, ever happen. So don't bother pointing that out. But it would be awesome if they could pull it off.
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Talk about pipe dreams my friend, I'm not sure there could be anything more ideal than that.
The club will do it's best to put the stadium where it can attract the most loyal fans, with the highest incomes, nearest to transportation. That's what the seat survey focused on and that's your venn diagram right there.
theres an empty space REALLY close to the UN headquarters right on the water. only downside is theres a highway blocking the view.
heres another spot right by the pepsi sign. looks begin enough to me
The question is not if it's a good idea but whether it can be done and the odds are against any stadium in Manhattan, especially with increasing gentrification.
There are spots in Brooklyn that are just as much as a pain as places in Queens and further I would argue that anywhere in NYC is a headache waiting to happen in some way, shape or form. The best places in Queens to my mind would have to be somewhere around LIC, Flushing or Jamaica
They should build a massive barge and put the stadium on it! They can dock and pick fans up at several points making it accessible to everyone! Now that's a pipe dream, but it would be pretty sick if they could put a 50k stadium and keep it floating along the Hudson.
They could also float out into the Atlantic to play the games so they can avoid US permit laws!
Seriously let's just get it done by Yankee Stadium!
They could also float out into the Atlantic to play the games so they can avoid US permit laws!
Seriously let's just get it done by Yankee Stadium!
There could be gambling and escorts for everyone
Just to clarify i was saying Staten island transportation will be improving. It is still completely and utterly a terrible spot for a stadium. I agree wholeheartedly with you.
Was told this afternoon that come hell or high water it will be at the 153rd St spot.
No, in the Bronx, not far from Yankee Stadium. I'd imagine this is where the multilevel parking lots are.
Putting a stadium in Manhattan is a terrible idea. Between not having space for parking, and the awful traffic, you're making it very difficult for a lot of people who live outside of NYC to make games. There's a reason why there's only one sports arena on Manhattan. Maybe north Manhattan can work, but nowhere else. It would be a nightmare for fans, and for residence.
Brooklyn, Queens or Bronx are the only viable options imho. They all have mass transit and major highways running through them, and space.
Brooklyn, Queens or Bronx are the only viable options imho. They all have mass transit and major highways running through them, and space.
This will sound combative, but please don't take it that way: How is it more difficult? It is the hub of every greater metro area transportation system. Barring it being in one's outer-borough backyard (which would itself be applicable only to a population orders of magnitude smaller than any "backyard" within the city proper), Manhattan is the easiest place to get both with regards to frequency and options of mode. Parking would be expensive, But if you make the choice you can pay the price IMO. Otherwise, do the world and yourself a favor and be a good metro citizen: park and ride via one of the 5 gazillion trains or buses.
My perception of the reason there hasn't been another pro sports venue has little to do with what you're suggesting. I think it comes down to 2 (hugely difficult to overcome) issues: 1) finding suitable ground space that 2) meets whatever financial parameters are in play for the prospective developer/tenant/financiers.
Exactly, the Jets and possibly Giants would be in Manhattan right now had it not been for the Dolan's paying more for the land than almost every stadium in the NFL cost to build. If you add together the cost of land and the cost of doong construction in Manhattan, it's crazy expensive. Obviously, it could work, hence why the NFL bid so much for the land.
