Yeah, it'd really be interesting to see what games would look like with under 10k fans in attendance.
Stadium Discussion
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Take a Kosmos game and multiply by 3.
I'm going to follow my post up with the following....
The team was turned down on Pier 40, but they need to keep going back and sweetening the deal (like what I posted previously). At a certain point, the city and community will cave and agree to it because they'll look stupid and self-serving not to. Take Barca going after Coutinho - they've made three bids now and Liverpool is about to crack under the weight of the levels tossed to them. NYCFC should do the same thing, just go ahead and pledge $1B towards the stadium, the community fields, the park's Trust, and River conservation. It'll be accepted and CFG will have a breathtaking stadium and be loved by everybody using the west side park.
In their defense, I think they're right to abandon Pier 40 as a viable stadium site for simple fact that there are too many rich people nearby who will throw everything they can in to stop this - hell, look what's happened with the Pier 55 park proposal. But you're definitely right in that that's the model they need to look at. They need to be willing to put larger sums of money on the table and say, for example "We're going to give $5,000,000 to the Flushing Meadows Conservancy, $5 to an HPD housing stabilization fund, yadda yadda" That's the only way it's going to get done.
I think those rich neighbors can be shamed to relent if CFG starts to look like Robin Hood bringing stability to the west side highway park for eternity via their Trust, additional community fields, river conservation, etc. make the PR campaign paint the rich dissenters as being self-serving without a plan to address the above orgs stability. Point out that the rich are worried about the view out their window and not the public green spaces that millions can use. CFG can offer free clinics to the community and tailored to the "have-nots". CFG needs to become relentless and ruthless if they want to make any progress - be the champion for the people so they feel like they're benefittig via the outreach component.
I think you guys underestimate how long legal cases can drag out. Pier 40 is a pipe dream. All it takes is one deep pocketed neighbor and that is tied up in court for 15 years.
The best places to put the stadium were ALWAYS in depressed parts of the city. The South Bronx has been long overdue for revitalization and public investment. The area around Citi Field makes little sense from a societal impact standpoint, but lots of sense from an economic standpoint.
If you were going to draw a direct comparison between the Manchester project and the NYCFC project, it would be difficult to find more areas more in line with the Manchester plan than the South Bronx. Otherwise, you're looking at certain parts of Harlem or certain parts of Brooklyn and the public transportation would be a nightmare.
If you were going to draw a direct comparison between the Manchester project and the NYCFC project, it would be difficult to find more areas more in line with the Manchester plan than the South Bronx. Otherwise, you're looking at certain parts of Harlem or certain parts of Brooklyn and the public transportation would be a nightmare.
Right, which is another plus for Willet's Point - there you can at least make a decent res judicata argument against most lawsuits.
Broadway Junction is rough, needs development, needs an anchor project, and has relatively great transportation options with J/M/Z/A/C/L trains, a major LIRR stop, and the Jackie Robinson Parkway.
I'm not saying it's a perfect location or the best location, but I'm surprised it's never discussed.
Report: https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/plannin..._report/east_ny_broadway_junction_subarea.pdf
Check out pg. 19
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You should hypothetically have a rock solid alibi for that day.
Hypothetically? Nothing. I don't think the local residents even want it there
I get what you're saying, but Mansour might have something to say about agreeing to write off 3% of his entire net worth just as sweeteners to get a stadium deal.
Lol, of course, but Realestate value in NYC doesn't go down and he'd have the cache of knowing he accomplished something the US Ambassador to England couldn't do. That 3% would not go wasted unless he's worried about the immediate loss of the other 97%.
Watch us magically get the land for Pier 40 and the Yankees say they want it and they'll give us the Yankee Stadium land.
People talk about net worths like the person has it in cash. I would imagine 93% of his net worth is a fictional valuation based off of today's price of oil. It probably fluctuates 1-3% in any given day.
This guy doesn't have a bank account at Wells Fargo with $17 Billion in it. It's tied up in various projects and is based off of his Kingdom's ability to get oil out from beneath his feet.
This guy doesn't have a bank account at Wells Fargo with $17 Billion in it. It's tied up in various projects and is based off of his Kingdom's ability to get oil out from beneath his feet.
Well then, he should sell high and buy low the next day and he's got the 3% we need
Forget writing your councilperson to push for a stadium, it's time to get serious.
Kidnap de Blasio?
Or better yet, Dante. But it will be an inside job since he's an NYCFC fan.
