Ike Podell
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If you wish man you can make a separate thread for it. I know there would be some people that would enjoy that and it wouldn't dilute this thread
Stadium Discussion
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yeah another thread i created awhile back talks about what you want to see in the stadium and what you want it to actually look like
---> Ideal Stadium location & stadium features?
---> Ideal Stadium location & stadium features?
FCRU
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Ah good call man, that's what I was looking for. Just wanted to ask first before kind of changing the topic in here. I'll check it out now.
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Don't really care what the stadium looks like, more concerned with the location. Across the street from Yankee Stadium is a great location. Easily accesible by subway and Metronorth.
Another great location that hasn't been mentioned is Jamaica, Queens. Some available land on the southside of the railroad tracks by York College. Close to the LIRR Jamaica station, Airtrain and 3 subway lines.
Dream location would be in Manhattan in the giant lot on the East river by the UN between the FDR and 1st Ave.
Another great location that hasn't been mentioned is Jamaica, Queens. Some available land on the southside of the railroad tracks by York College. Close to the LIRR Jamaica station, Airtrain and 3 subway lines.
Dream location would be in Manhattan in the giant lot on the East river by the UN between the FDR and 1st Ave.
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That is a great spot just south of the UN. google maps has it listed as Con Ed Redevelopment.
A few articles call it the 1st avenue mud pit. It appears that 2 of the 9.2 acre site have been sold($172 million) and are being developed as rental towers.
It's funny you mention that. I've passed that mud pit a bunch in the past year and wondered what was going on. Doesn't seem big enough for a stadium. It's amazing that it's 9.2 acres. Just goes to show you how big everything in Manhattan is.
The bleeding heart liberal in me - the part of me I try and suppress - is hoping for something to be done in the Bronx on a very large scale, similar to what they did in Manchester. Build a stadium, a training facility, a youth academy, maybe a school and definitely housing. Bronx SHOULD be the next borough to catch on. It happened in Brooklyn and it's now happening in Queens. A little redevelopment would go a long way to making the South Bronx a decently desireable place to live. Especially around Yankee Stadium as you have a subway stop right there. In New York, it's all about the subway stops.
As a proud Bleeding heart Liberal i say don't try to suppress it. open your heart and let the sillyness out. most of the bronx close to a subway is booming or has already boomed
There are two points of view on the Bronx and high end development.
Pro- transportation makes it desirable.
Con- ton of projects and crime.
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theres crime everywhere...
I appreciate and support your desire to have a soccer stadium because its also my wish and of many other Bronx-denizens and, I agree with most of your statement above about the redevelopment. I disagree about the part "would go a long way to making the South Bronx a decently desirable place to live". The South Bronx is the home of hard working class families like mine and my neighbors. It's already a decently desirable place to live with a stadium or without a stadium. Compared to the other 4 boroughs the cost of living is cheaper; rent, property taxes, food, clothing, including finding free parking zones (this to my detriment is changing very fast as more people are moving into the area) and the congested Cross Bronx is the doorway where delivery trucks must pass through to supply the entire 5 boroughs.
As fort the mud pit- By some weird coincidence yesterday I happened to see the mud pit from above a 4th floor adjacent building and the 9.2 acres look very small. Having a stadium in Manhattan would be great too.
Lets see if we can convince the powers to be .
We need more projects : for those of you not from NY projects mean affordable housing
I don't live in the Bronx but it is my ancestreal home. A magical place of Fig trees pastries and old Italian ladies pulling out one of my hairs because it is good luck (ginger)
I dont see projects as a Con . my cousin grew up in a project in the bronx and became a sucessful writer. My grandmother moved into one when she got old . Projects is used as a dirty word in most of the country, for my family it was housing for someone who was a dress maker and someone who worked for the visiting nurse service. Both noble jobs in my book.
I live in Brewster NY in a neighborhood of 79 houses. a few weeks ago we had 5 houses broken into. thats a huge percentage. Way higher than in the city. My kids go to the North Salem school district and there is no shortage of drugs.
there was a great anti drug commercial years ago that said
" 25% of kids who smoke pot before the age of 15 live in the inner cites, guess where the rest of them live)
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I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to be offensive. Just when you look at what's happened in Brooklyn and Queens...why not the South Bronx? If you're just out of college and can't afford Manhattan, you move to Astoria or LIC now. If you can but don't want to pay that much, you choose Brooklyn.
Always wondered when the South Bronx would have that happen.
Everything I have read says that stadiums do nothing for the local area when they are put in lower income areas. Thats a ruse the owners and politicians use to explain why they are putting them there.
Unless of course they build affordable housing like CFG did in Manchester.
No problem man, I truly appreciate your support for a stadium and its true that some parts are not most desirable, but that is changing. Sadly some of those changes are not too much to our liking , but that is "progress" . I also apologize that my response may you feel uncomfortable. I must admit my heckles were raised a bit, must be that when I say I am from the Bronx , I get jokes about Fort Apache sort of thing. This is why I call myself the unofficial ambassador of the Bronx wherever I travel.
I agree with you about the politicians and owners.
I think the point of those articles is that publicly financing those stadiums does not create value from the municipality's perspective -- not that they don't do good things for the neighborhood. If privately financed, there is a net positive benefit.
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