Completely right. I didn't know what I was missing until I went to a Nats game in DC. Much more charm on the concourse.
Stadium Discussion
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Hopefully, neither.
How about a stadium that, from the outside, actually looks like it belongs in a New York neighborhood? It could have a brick or stone facade, retail at street level and appear like it belongs where it was placed. Such stadiums exist, but not as many as there should be given that most owners go for something splashy.
Which side would you be interested in?
Following up on my earlier post.
This is what I think we do NOT want.
Tottenham's new stadium
These are better examples.
Monaco. Notice how the roofline and facade match the surroundings. People can walk by on matchday and not know or care they are near the stadium. It's just part of the neighborhood.
Minute Maid Park, Houston
Fenway Park, Boston
Craven Cottage, London.
Note too, that there is no reason a more modern, open look cannot be a part of the stadium facing away from the neighborhood - say, out over the water. See proposal for the other side of Craven Cottage.
We are going to be putting something into a crowded, urban environment. The kind of stadium that works in the middle of a large, suburban parking lot isn't going to work for us. I think something that fits within a typical NYC neighborhood is better architecturally and also give us a better chance at approval since we are minimizing the impact on the local area.
Granted - but I think one of the cool things about New York is the architectural heterogeneity. I think I said it somewhere on this thread earlier (ha), but it would be cool to try to represent that heterogeneity rather than to attempt to conform to a homogeneity that doesn't really exist. I also think that post-hoc trying to build within that constraint would be a little bit revisionist / Epcot Center. Although, to be fair, there's a decent amount of that stuff in NYC too lol.Following up on my earlier post.
This is what I think we do NOT want.
Tottenham's new stadium
These are better examples.
Monaco. Notice how the roofline and facade match the surroundings. People can walk by on matchday and not know or care they are near the stadium. It's just part of the neighborhood.
Minute Maid Park, Houston
Fenway Park, Boston
Craven Cottage, London.
Note too, that there is no reason a more modern, open look cannot be a part of the stadium facing away from the neighborhood - say, out over the water. See proposal for the other side of Craven Cottage.
We are going to be putting something into a crowded, urban environment. The kind of stadium that works in the middle of a large, suburban parking lot isn't going to work for us. I think something that fits within a typical NYC neighborhood is better architecturally and also give us a better chance at approval since we are minimizing the impact on the local area.
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Following up on my earlier post.
This is what I think we do NOT want.
Tottenham's new stadium
These are better examples.
Monaco. Notice how the roofline and facade match the surroundings. People can walk by on matchday and not know or care they are near the stadium. It's just part of the neighborhood.
Minute Maid Park, Houston
Fenway Park, Boston
Craven Cottage, London.
Note too, that there is no reason a more modern, open look cannot be a part of the stadium facing away from the neighborhood - say, out over the water. See proposal for the other side of Craven Cottage.
We are going to be putting something into a crowded, urban environment. The kind of stadium that works in the middle of a large, suburban parking lot isn't going to work for us. I think something that fits within a typical NYC neighborhood is better architecturally and also give us a better chance at approval since we are minimizing the impact on the local area.
My preferred exterior styling would mimic Radio City Music Hall.
I just want it to pull inspiration from some established NYC architecture. Might as well mimic Yankee Stadium if we are across the street from it, which I wouldn't mind either.
For those curious, here are prior renderings of RBA and the GAL/Parking site near Yankee Stadium.
https://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-204#post-120558
https://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-700#post-253268
https://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-200#post-119124
https://nycfcforums.com/index.php?attachments/screen-shot-2018-07-13-at-9-39-51-am-png.8884/
https://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-204#post-120558
https://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-700#post-253268
https://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-200#post-119124
https://nycfcforums.com/index.php?attachments/screen-shot-2018-07-13-at-9-39-51-am-png.8884/
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That sounds plausible, that way, that whole area is completely incorporated. Crap, coming from Westchester, getting out at the station IN the stadium sounds insanely cool.
I’d blow my brains out if it looked like Times Square/RCMH. Times Square is the butt of all jokes at design schools and while something new in that neighborhood is ok to mimic it, because it would appropriately blend in, you won’t see those elements anywhere else in the city. Just won’t happen.My preferred exterior styling would mimic Radio City Music Hall.
I just want it to pull inspiration from some established NYC architecture. Might as well mimic Yankee Stadium if we are across the street from it, which I wouldn't mind either.
How do you dump on someone for wanting to mimic RCMH? Apparently by bringing up an irrelevant part of New York a few blocks away.
Radio City Music Hall looks nothing like Times Square and is not part of Times Square. The building RCMH is in is part of the original Rock Center development, and is Art Deco/Streamlined Moderne. RCMH has a well lit marquee, and Rockefeller Center is close to Times Square. But apart from that they are different and look very different, and beyond that I see no connection, especially in design, between RCMH and TS.
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I'm not clear how you'd make something "look like Times Square" unless that means covering the entirety of the outside of the stadium with enormous animated advertisements.
Out of curiosity, why is it made fun of?
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I came across a powerpoint presentation today at work (Coca-Cola). The owners shared it with the local leadership team as an example of some new slides to replace our standard outdated ones. Big NYCFC logo on slide one. They must have cut out the juicy bits, but they were clearly pitching a stadium-focused partnership. Pepsi has a long term contract with Yankee Stadium. Not much, but if they are talking to vendors at this point, something must be moving along.
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