Stadium Discussion

[Kjbert]

Iron Triangle > Third Rail

 

[snugglefarts]

"City Park"

 

[SanBartG]

whatver the actual name of the stadium is im still gonna call it Willets Point. Hudson Derby at Wilets Point just sounds so badass

Hudson derby at the Iron Triangle would be better.

 

[NickA]

1010 just had a report on the new Willets point. Thousand apartments, school & retail. They will discuss what do with the other 17 acres known as the iron triangle because they said no to a mega mall. First time I heard it on the radio. Everybody should be flooding the local government about the stadium.

ETA: The more I think about it the more I think it was going to be a mall or stadium. The mayors office publicly saying they will not use that acreage for a mall is very telling. I think we got the initial greenlight.

Also ETA: this gem of an article 6 years ago. https://www.villagevoice.com/2012/0...-mls-soccer-stadium-in-flushing-meadows-park/

 

[kuyakew]

So if RBA takes up about 12 acres that would be more than enough for New York City Villa's Iron Villa @ Etihad Pitch brought to you by WB Mason.

 

[Jon]

The area highlighted in green is about 12.5 acres or so. Still plenty of room for further development. Close enough to use Citi Field parking and public transportation. This area would truly become the center of sports in NYC.

 

[SoupInNYC]

View attachment 8169 The area highlighted in green is about 12.5 acres or so. Still plenty of room for further development. Close enough to use Citi Field parking and public transportation. This area would truly become the center of sports in NYC.

Paging Seth

 

[Kangaroo Jack]

View attachment 8169 The area highlighted in green is about 12.5 acres or so. Still plenty of room for further development. Close enough to use Citi Field parking and public transportation. This area would truly become the center of sports in NYC.

this was probably mentioned, but ill be honest i dont read this thread as closely as i probably should. But if this is the area, what happens to all those businesses that are in the green square.

 

[Seth]

Paging Seth

Well I haven't jumped into this thread because I've already jumped into this thread.

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[Jon]

this was probably mentioned, but ill be honest i dont read this thread as closely as i probably should. But if this is the area, what happens to all those businesses that are in the green square.

Isn't the entire Iron Triangle falling under eminent domain? I mean, they're not going to build a new neighborhood around decrepit auto body shops.

 

[Kangaroo Jack]

Isn't the entire Iron Triangle falling under eminent domain? I mean, they're not going to build a new neighborhood around decrepit auto body shops.

im not sure of the logistics thats why im asking but Amway isnt a decrepit auto and a large company. And im sure Evergreen recycling is a lucrative business (I have no idea, but if i had to guess).

 

[adam]

this was probably mentioned, but ill be honest i dont read this thread as closely as i probably should. But if this is the area, what happens to all those businesses that are in the green square.

Most have already been bought out and closed down by the NYCEDC. The other are all looking to sell. I represented one of the scrapyards for a while. Whomever is left is actually pissed off that those who sold didn't hold out together for a higher price in one shot. Now the holdovers are just waiting to be approached to sell and move on as well. Most the owners are up there in age and looking to retire. It's the sub-lessors who rent a small garage on an owner's property that are going to have to figure out where to move their business. But they have always been on month-month leases, so they had to expect it was an eventuality.

 

[Jon]

Most have already been bought out and closed down by the NYCEDC. The other are all looking to sell. I represented one of the scrapyards for a while. Whomever is left is actually pissed off that those who sold didn't hold out together for a higher price in one shot. Now the holdovers are just waiting to be approached to sell and move on as well. Most the owners are up there in age and looking to retire. It's the sub-lessors who rent a small garage on an owner's property that are going to have to figure out where to move their business. But they have always been on month-month leases, so they had to expect it was an eventuality.

There ya go. Bring in the bulldozers!

 

[NickFromAstoria]

Isn't the entire Iron Triangle falling under eminent domain? I mean, they're not going to build a new neighborhood around decrepit auto body shops.

It’s already done, mostly - if you go on the city DoITT Map you’ll see that the city Housing Presrvation and Development agency has title to a huge chunk of the triangle already.

 

[Kangaroo Jack]

Most have already been bought out and closed down by the NYCEDC. The other are all looking to sell. I represented one of the scrapyards for a while. Whomever is left is actually pissed off that those who sold didn't hold out together for a higher price in one shot. Now the holdovers are just waiting to be approached to sell and move on as well. Most the owners are up there in age and looking to retire. It's the sub-lessors who rent a small garage on an owner's property that are going to have to figure out where to move their business. But they have always been on month-month leases, so they had to expect it was an eventuality.

What about places like amway... isnt that a fairly new facility?

EDIT: never mind its on the opposite side of the street, i just google street viewed it, didnt look like that in the map posted above

 

[adam]

What about places like amway... isnt that a fairly new facility?

EDIT: never mind its on the opposite side of the street, i just google street viewed it, didnt look like that in the map posted above

If I'm not mistaken, that's actually located within the Citi Field complex. Not in the iron triangle. Maybe our stadium has the same concept and is also mixed-use with both retail and office within the stadium structure. Who wants to move their office into Ethiad Point?

 

[Jon]

Street view looking up Willets Point Blvd. from the corner of 126th and Roosevelt. Everything has already been removed from 37th street south.

 

[CP_Scouse]

Dear intern. Dont build anymore parkinglots. Build maybe a market. Some other shit. Just no more concrete and lines

 

[LionNYC]

1010 just had a report on the new Willets point. Thousand apartments, school & retail. They will discuss what do with the other 17 acres known as the iron triangle because they said no to a mega mall. First time I heard it on the radio. Everybody should be flooding the local government about the stadium.

ETA: The more I think about it the more I think it was going to be a mall or stadium. The mayors office publicly saying they will not use that acreage for a mall is very telling. I think we got the initial greenlight.

Also ETA: this gem of an article 6 years ago. https://www.villagevoice.com/2012/0...-mls-soccer-stadium-in-flushing-meadows-park/

So to confirm. They plan on having everything the city wants on 6 acres and 17 acres TBD (for a stadium)? The entire Iron Triangle is 23 acres?

View attachment 8169 The area highlighted in green is about 12.5 acres or so. Still plenty of room for further development. Close enough to use Citi Field parking and public transportation. This area would truly become the center of sports in NYC.

Everything to the right of Citi Field is/will be owned by the city. There isn't going to be anything left over in the Iron Triangle post redevelopment?

 

[Jon]

So to confirm. They plan on having everything the city wants on 6 acres and 17 acres TBD (for a stadium)? The entire Iron Triangle is 23 acres?



Everything to the right of Citi Field is/will be owned by the city. There isn't going to be anything left over in the Iron Triangle post redevelopment?

The area between Roosevelt Ave / 126th Street / Northern Blvd / Van Wyck is approximately 70 acres.