FIFA Women's World Cup 2019 - France

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Why does the MLS website cover the USMNT but not the USWNT? And why does nobody complain about this?

Mind you, I'm generally against people complaining. There's far too much complaining. But complaining about this would be more justified than a lot of things people complain about. This is basic parity, and costs almost nothing. Which makes me think there's an actual, good reason for this or lots of people would complain about it.
Is it a SUM thing?
 

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Why does the MLS website cover the USMNT but not the USWNT? And why does nobody complain about this?

Mind you, I'm generally against people complaining. There's far too much complaining. But complaining about this would be more justified than a lot of things people complain about. This is basic parity, and costs almost nothing. Which makes me think there's an actual, good reason for this or lots of people would complain about it.
Is it a SUM thing?
Dunno.... maybe because it’s a men’s league with players from the league playing on the NT?
 

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Why does the MLS website cover the USMNT but not the USWNT? And why does nobody complain about this?

Mind you, I'm generally against people complaining. There's far too much complaining. But complaining about this would be more justified than a lot of things people complain about. This is basic parity, and costs almost nothing. Which makes me think there's an actual, good reason for this or lots of people would complain about it.
Is it a SUM thing?
I had assumed they cover the national teams, including scores, as there are MLS players involved in some which isn’t the case with the women. I could be wrong and that could still be silly but that was my assumption.
 

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Dunno.... maybe because it’s a men’s league with players from the league playing on the NT?
I had assumed they cover the national teams, including scores, as there are MLS players involved in some which isn’t the case with the women. I could be wrong and that could still be silly but that was my assumption.
I should have specified that what further confuses me is the coverage goes waaay beyond the USMNT:
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Seriously, why is MLS reporting both in advance and after-the-fact, every damn game between 2-bit CONCACAF teams on the front page and there's zippity-do-dah about USWNT or WWC? And the only guess I can make is it's SUM-how SUM-way SUM-related. But I don't know. MLS is becoming a CONCACAF league, which plays into both of your responses even though you didn't directly say so [again, because I didn't originally bring it up]. But I'd much rather have info about USWNT games in the MLS app and on the website than Bermuda-Nicaragua, Haiti- Costa Rica or Canada-Cuba.
 

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I should have specified that what further confuses me is the coverage goes waaay beyond the USMNT:
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Seriously, why is MLS reporting both in advance and after-the-fact, every damn game between 2-bit CONCACAF teams on the front page and there's zippity-do-dah about USWNT or WWC? And the only guess I can make is it's SUM-how SUM-way SUM-related. But I don't know. MLS is becoming a CONCACAF league, which plays into both of your responses even though you didn't directly say so [again, because I didn't originally bring it up]. But I'd much rather have info about USWNT games in the MLS app and on the website than Bermuda-Nicaragua, Haiti- Costa Rica or Canada-Cuba.
I'm going to agree with Ulrich Ulrich post above, being that it is a league with only men's teams being why they don't cover the USWNT. It is weird that they have the scores for the 2-bit minnows as you said, that doesn't really make sense at all. To be honest, it doesn't make much sense to cover the USMNT as well, as the site should just have MLS teams and related news. To be fair though, Major League Soccer Soccer .com also has articles on transfer rumors, which is weird as shit. The site as a whole is just... different.
I'm comparing this to say the Bundesliga (https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga) which has articles on some National Team players, but they're related to their clubs in the actual League. They have an article on Mckennie and his play with the USMNT in the Gold Cup as well as his new contract with Schalke, some German U21s and what clubs they're with in the BuLi, and even a Pulisic article too.
I do agree with you that it's just plain weird the randomness that an official league website covers. I'd also presume it has to do with the roots of soccer in the US, as the late 90's probably didn't have any/many outlets/writers on the rumor mill or covering things like the Gold Cup and it's just continued from that.
 

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I'm going to agree with Ulrich Ulrich post above, being that it is a league with only men's teams being why they don't cover the USWNT. It is weird that they have the scores for the 2-bit minnows as you said, that doesn't really make sense at all. To be honest, it doesn't make much sense to cover the USMNT as well, as the site should just have MLS teams and related news. To be fair though, Major League Soccer Soccer .com also has articles on transfer rumors, which is weird as shit. The site as a whole is just... different.
I'm comparing this to say the Bundesliga (https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga) which has articles on some National Team players, but they're related to their clubs in the actual League. They have an article on Mckennie and his play with the USMNT in the Gold Cup as well as his new contract with Schalke, some German U21s and what clubs they're with in the BuLi, and even a Pulisic article too.
I do agree with you that it's just plain weird the randomness that an official league website covers. I'd also presume it has to do with the roots of soccer in the US, as the late 90's probably didn't have any/many outlets/writers on the rumor mill or covering things like the Gold Cup and it's just continued from that.
I've definitely seen articles on the bundesliga/premier league website talking about their respective national teams. To the extent MLSSoccer does it? No... but honestly, what's wrong with a league from a country writing articles about the national team from that country? I don't see a problem with it...
 

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I've definitely seen articles on the bundesliga/premier league website talking about their respective national teams. To the extent MLSSoccer does it? No... but honestly, what's wrong with a league from a country writing articles about the national team from that country? I don't see a problem with it...
I think mgarbowski mgarbowski main point of frustration/confusion came from two points, one being the lack of Women's team articles and the scores/coverage of other nations in CONCACAF like Panama, Costa Rica, or Jamaica as well as the USMNT. It would be like the DFB covering the Austrian, Swiss, and Turkish national teams or the PL covering Wales, Scotland, Ireland, and Northern Ireland.
 

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I think mgarbowski mgarbowski main point of frustration/confusion came from two points, one being the lack of Women's team articles and the scores/coverage of other nations in CONCACAF like Panama, Costa Rica, or Jamaica as well as the USMNT. It would be like the DFB covering the Austrian, Swiss, and Turkish national teams or the PL covering Wales, Scotland, Ireland, and Northern Ireland.
In that sense, yeah I agree it's ridiculous, and I agree then. However, discussions about the USMNT/USWNT would be great, as long as they received equal treatment... which they aren't.
 

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I should have specified that what further confuses me is the coverage goes waaay beyond the USMNT:
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Seriously, why is MLS reporting both in advance and after-the-fact, every damn game between 2-bit CONCACAF teams on the front page and there's zippity-do-dah about USWNT or WWC? And the only guess I can make is it's SUM-how SUM-way SUM-related. But I don't know. MLS is becoming a CONCACAF league, which plays into both of your responses even though you didn't directly say so [again, because I didn't originally bring it up]. But I'd much rather have info about USWNT games in the MLS app and on the website than Bermuda-Nicaragua, Haiti- Costa Rica or Canada-Cuba.
All of those games have MLS players, whereas none of the women’s games do. That actually seems quite reasonable to me. It’s not a general soccer or general US soccer website.

I know the Premier League site doesn’t do the same, but we’re not the premier league.
 

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Holy shit, NWSL website has coverage of the women's world cup but NADA about the MNT. What the fuck?

Fuck SUM.
 

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Holy shit, NWSL website has coverage of the women's world cup but NADA about the MNT. What the fuck?
Are you somehow lacking in coverage of the MNT for some reason?
 

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Are you somehow lacking in coverage of the MNT for some reason?
Nope. Just pointing out that league websites generally stick to things that involve the league. Until FIFA starts allowing transgender players to switch from Men's to Women's games, zero current or former MLS players will play in the WWC.
Just as zero NWSL players are participating in the Copa or Gold Cup, hence zero coverage from their website.
 

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Nice article on why Lyon over Paris. Had been wondering this all tournament.

The house that Aulas built: Why the 2019 World Cup’s biggest matches are being played in Lyon instead of Paris
https://theathletic.com/1063798/2019/07/05/the-house-that-aulas-built-why-the-2019-world-cups-biggest-matches-are-being-played-in-lyon-instead-of-paris/
I canceled my Athletic subscription based on the lack of NYCFC coverage - could you summarize?

I'm in Lyon and wondering the same thing. It's a fine city but nothing like Paris. The stadium situation is horrible compared to Parc des Princes and the city itself is struggling to support the influx of supporters, based on what I'm hearing from locals, although it seems pretty chill to me (compared to NYC at least)!
 

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I canceled my Athletic subscription based on the lack of NYCFC coverage - could you summarize?

I'm in Lyon and wondering the same thing. It's a fine city but nothing like Paris. The stadium situation is horrible compared to Parc des Princes and the city itself is struggling to support the influx of supporters, based on what I'm hearing from locals, although it seems pretty chill to me (compared to NYC at least)!
Bigger stadium
Most successful women’s club team in the world
State of the art facilities
Owner that’s very pro women’s game
Built-in fan base
 

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Telemundo is ahead by seconds.....does anyone why there are delays in airplay? My buddy thinks its for Fox or other channel to stop any controversies.
I’d love to see a dude run onto the field in a banana hammock.
 

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Telemundo is ahead by seconds.....does anyone why there are delays in airplay? My buddy thinks its for Fox or other channel to stop any controversies.
It happens often. I've noticed as much as 30 second differences between two FOX or NBC local affiliate stations for the same NFL game before.
Fox transmits the signal to the local affiliate, then they put their signal out, then the cable company does what they do.
 

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Revenue Disparity Explains Pay Disparity Between Soccer World Cup's Men And Women

Has anyone come across any analyses or studies to refute this? The numbers are a bit old, because FIFA is not completely transparent about its revenue and such, but the upshot is that the gap between the money generated by the Men's World Cup and the Women's World Cup is much, much bigger than the gap between the prize money in those contests. If you imposed proportionality between revenue and prizes, then either the men would make much more or the women much less, byt a lot. I suspect the revenue gap is shrinking as the WWC gets bigger and more popular, but the revenue gap set forth here is so large I think even with the current trend there is a long way to go.

I also understand this is just a slice of total revenue and income: US Soccer has its own revenue sources, FIFA has revenue in addition to the World Cup tournaments, and the players are paid salaries and other bonuses in addition to World Cup prize money. So it has its limitations even if accurate, but I'd like to know if this is accurate for what it does purport to cover.