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Official NYCFC Academy Thread

Discussion in 'Team News and Rumors' started by NYCFC_Dan, Jul 1, 2015.

  1. BxLio91

    BxLio91 Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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  2. Gotham Gator

    Gotham Gator Senior Member Donor

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    $4.3 million is even higher than the salary budget cap of $4.035 million.

    Of course most teams pay more overall for their rosters than the budget cap, but it gives you a sense of scale for that investment.

    Also, unlike the salary budget, there is likely wide variance between teams in spending on academies. It’s a good way for an ambitious team to get an edge.
     
  3. Kjbert

    Kjbert Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    But what are they saying each team spends $4.3 million on
     
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    mgarbowski Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    I took it to mean all operating costs associated with all teams and players other than the first team. Running academies, running a USL team. Coaches, trainers, equipment, field maintenance, academy-related building maintenance, travel, etc. If Garber was not trying to overstate things, it would not include capital costs like buying a USL franchise, building a USL stadium or academy site, etc.
     
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    Kjbert Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    I was going to ask if they included things like the $10 Million practice facility we built.
     
  6. mgarbowski

    mgarbowski Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    If Garber included capital investment then the $100mm is both misleading and insignificant. I don't trust Garber unreservedly but I also don't think he usually uses doublespeak to mislead.
     
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  7. Ulrich

    Ulrich Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Ours was only $10M? No wonder it looks so cheap. ATL’s was $60M in an area where the dollar goes farther..... so a bigger divide comparatively.

    Just read they also have six academy locker rooms.... so basically an all-in-one facility for the club from academy to 1st team.
     
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  8. Kjbert

    Kjbert Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    I think ours ended up being closer to $15 million but having seen both ours and Atlanta’s...ours is fucking Mickey Mouse.
     
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  9. Ulrich

    Ulrich Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Ours compared to any of the others looks Mickey Mouse. LAFC has a palace. KC is top rate. Even RSL has a 40-50m complex with an indoor field. And again, that $40-50m in Utah has way more buying power so its equivalent to $55-70m+
     
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    Kjbert Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    There are high school football programs in Texas that have better facilities.

    Ours is fine. It has the necessities but it doesn’t scream
    Ambition
     
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  11. Ulrich

    Ulrich Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    What you just described is “settling” in terms of dating. I guess that’s fine for some, especially in the moment, but it’s definitely not a good long term plan.
     
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    SoupInNYC Senior Member Elite Donor

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    I'm guessing you haven't seen New Jersey's
     
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    Fantazma Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    LionNYC Senior Member Staff Member Elite Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Pretty sure he was called into an NYCFC preseason camp in 2017...

    And we do have his MLS rights under the current rules as he played in our academy (see Jordan Morris on Seattle having played at Stanford).
     
  15. Fantazma

    Fantazma Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    thanks....it be easier if there was also a list of homegrowns and knowing where they playing in college to sort of keep tabs on them in college season.
     
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    He started against the Galaxy this last preseason.

     
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    sundance Regular Member Elite Donor

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    Oh, and Fake JewFake Jew boosted him in previews. Doesn’t look like the forums really commented on his performance in the game itself though.

     
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    I still think if MLS rules didn’t screw him over he’d be a professional.
     
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    What's the story there?
     
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    LionNYC Senior Member Staff Member Elite Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    He's not an American citizen and without a green card. So if NYCFC were to sign him as a homegrown player we'd be using an international spot. And you don't waste an international spot on a homegrown player.
     
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