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Or at least slotted in as a DP till June when we move him.

I'm starting to think Mix is blocking a move to *anywhere.* I honestly think the team tried to play hardball with him, so he decided to play hardball back. He's got a guaranteed contract, not much to lose in the short term.

I hope that's not the case. But he's not just going to agree to take a paycut to transfer elsewhere.
 
Give Mix his playing time and see if he's worth his contract.

He was supposed to be Pirlo or Lampard's position and now that one of them is gone, he can be the player he was signed to be, hopefully.
 
Give Mix his playing time and see if he's worth his contract.

He was supposed to be Pirlo or Lampard's position and now that one of them is gone, he can be the player he was signed to be, hopefully.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. In each of the last two seasons, he's started the year in a major role, lost it, then awkwardly finished out the season without a role on the team. Why go thru that again?

To bank on Mix this year is to bank on Mikey Lopez, because he will wind up taking his job again, pretty much guaranteed.
 
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. In each of the last two seasons, he's started the year in a major role, lost it, then awkwardly finished out the season without a role on the team. Why go thru that again?

To bank on Mix this year is to bank on Mikey Lopez, because he will wind up taking his job again, pretty much guaranteed.
Fat Frank took his role the past two years
 
Fat Frank took his role the past two years

That's just not true.

In 2015, Mix started all but two games thru May. Then in, June and July, he went bench, subbed on, started, started, bench, bench, bench, subbed on, subbed on. The final game in that list was August 1, when Lampard made his debut. He unquestionably lost his job on his own accord during June and July of 2015. (Mix actually started all but one game from August 1 onward, but it was at wing and out of position.)

In 2016, similar story, but accelerated. After starting four of the first five games, he only started four of the next nine, leading up to June 18. On that day, Lampard started the first time and Mix never saw the field again. But the point stands that he clearly had already lost the starting job by starting fewer than 50% of the 9 games prior to that.
 
That's just not true.

In 2015, Mix started all but two games thru May. Then in, June and July, he went bench, subbed on, started, started, bench, bench, bench, subbed on, subbed on. The final game in that list was August 1, when Lampard made his debut. He unquestionably lost his job on his own accord during June and July of 2015. (Mix actually started all but one game from August 1 onward, but it was at wing and out of position.)

In 2016, similar story, but accelerated. After starting four of the first five games, he only started four of the next nine, leading up to June 18. On that day, Lampard started the first time and Mix never saw the field again. But the point stands that he clearly had already lost the starting job by starting fewer than 50% of the 9 games prior to that.

I'm hearing Mix is likely staying. Very careful in how I word this. Staying and going to try and find him playing time. All I got.

The history plus Dan's careful wording based on his source, that they are going to try to find him playing time does not give me confidence. I hope they find a way to make this work.
 
That's just not true.

In 2015, Mix started all but two games thru May. Then in, June and July, he went bench, subbed on, started, started, bench, bench, bench, subbed on, subbed on. The final game in that list was August 1, when Lampard made his debut. He unquestionably lost his job on his own accord during June and July of 2015. (Mix actually started all but one game from August 1 onward, but it was at wing and out of position.)

In 2016, similar story, but accelerated. After starting four of the first five games, he only started four of the next nine, leading up to June 18. On that day, Lampard started the first time and Mix never saw the field again. But the point stands that he clearly had already lost the starting job by starting fewer than 50% of the 9 games prior to that.
Something happened that he was put on the bench, but to characterize it as losing his job to lopez is a stretch. At no time, to no knowledgeable observer, did Lopez play better than mix.
 
Something happened that he was put on the bench, but to characterize it as losing his job to lopez is a stretch. At no time, to no knowledgeable observer, did Lopez play better than mix.

I didn't say who was better. I said Mix was deemed to no longer be an everyday starter even before Lampard was starting. And the game logs bear that out. For whatever reason, Mix hasn't been able to keep his job twice in two years.
 
As for performance, last season I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he played right wing and because of Kreis. This season, I thought he was underwhelming essentially every minute he played. Many of us called that in realtime on a game by game basis (others disagreed). Not bad, but no better than your average MLS substitute. That's useful, and certainly more useful than Mikey Lopez, but not worth a big contract. Add in some mysterious other issues, and I don't have a lot of confidence that he is capable of earning his contract even if given the chance.

If he stays, it's only because the team has failed to find a way to fix this or is too stubborn to do so, even without the leverage.

It's time to cut losses, not prolong the agony for everyone involved, regardless of the allocation of blame.

Or hopefully I'm way off here. And there is a happy ending which involves Mix staying and contributing. I would be happy to be wrong (and have my Mix jersey back in rotation).
 
Does every thread now devolve into this mix shit?

Look, you could play Mix on Man City and he wouldn't stand out, for better or worse. That's the kind of player he is. He's one of the players most impacted by surrounding weak links and uncertain tactical approaches that I've ever seen.

I don't know what people expect. If you guys thought he was something other than a pure CM who puts in a solid defensive shift and makes the right passes, then that's not really on him.

The guy has great technical skill and can ping a ball where it needs to be. He's not Coutinho or Silva or Vidal. He's Joe Allen.
 
Hey guys - this was the nightmare scenario. This was our roster flexibility. Ugh
Actually, the nightmare scenario was NYCFC knowing they wanted to get rid of Mix with no takers that Mix approved of, and then going and trading for Sean Johnson knowing there are no takers for Saunders..... leaving two players needing to be moved and only one player that can be bought out. That was a colossal mistake on the FO's part.
 
That's just not true.

In 2015, Mix started all but two games thru May. Then in, June and July, he went bench, subbed on, started, started, bench, bench, bench, subbed on, subbed on. The final game in that list was August 1, when Lampard made his debut. He unquestionably lost his job on his own accord during June and July of 2015. (Mix actually started all but one game from August 1 onward, but it was at wing and out of position.)

In 2016, similar story, but accelerated. After starting four of the first five games, he only started four of the next nine, leading up to June 18. On that day, Lampard started the first time and Mix never saw the field again. But the point stands that he clearly had already lost the starting job by starting fewer than 50% of the 9 games prior to that.

You're leaving out that Wednesday June 15th was the Cosmos USOC match at Fordham. Something happened that night, but we all don't know what exactly. He wasn't expected to play Saturday the 18th after 90 minutes on Wednesday. But then he never played again (except the friendly in Mexico) and we know there was some yelling in that locker room after the USOC match.
 
You're leaving out that Wednesday June 15th was the Cosmos USOC match at Fordham. Something happened that night, but we all don't know what exactly. He wasn't expected to play Saturday the 18th after 90 minutes on Wednesday. But then he never played again (except the friendly in Mexico) and we know there was some yelling in that locker room after the USOC match.
From what I remember, Mix seemed very angry after that game but I don't remember ever reading about any yelling in the locker room. What is your source for this? It makes sense that he could have yelled but I didn't see any confirmation on this.
 
From what I remember, Mix seemed very angry after that game but I don't remember ever reading about any yelling in the locker room. What is your source for this? It makes sense that he could have yelled but I didn't see any confirmation on this.

I remember seeing Mike Anderer (Blue City Radio) post-match before he went into the lockeroom, and then he mentioned something on his show about it. Maybe thesauerchise can shed some light on this for us if he remembers or can ask Mike.
 
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