2025 Roster and Transfer Discussion Thread

ZYanksRule said:
Per MLS's website, which holds the official stats, Villa had 77 goals and 26 assists in the regular season (103 contributions), plus 3 goals in playoffs.

Maxi, per MLS, has 27 goals and 74 assists (101 contributions), plus 5 goals/6 assists in playoffs.
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Interesting. That's different from the Football Reference numbers, even when I click on All Competitions:


I'll have to double-check from now on. I use the Sports Reference numbers across all sports, and I know they're super accurate with my other sport, baseball. Maybe it's a little hazier for soccer.
 
gbservis said:
Watch 5 min of his red star footage and it's wildly apparent that he was never going to be plug and play into our current tactics.
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This is exactly why I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw the scouting report on his pressing. Where the heck did that idea come from?
 
KevinJRogers said:
Interesting. That's different from the Football Reference numbers, even when I click on All Competitions:


I'll have to double-check from now on. I use the Sports Reference numbers across all sports, and I know they're super accurate with my other sport, baseball. Maybe it's a little hazier for soccer.
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Unfortunately for FBRef, "All Competitions" means all competitions they track, with no guarantee that they track all actual competitions.

Generally, as I expect you're aware, baseball has always been stat obsessive, and has been stat rigorous for close to a century now. Soccer is nowhere near that, but AFAIK FBref is doing its best to backfill what it does not have.
 
ZYanksRule said:
Looks like the press release was indicating regular season numbers only. And I think Transfermarkt does not have full/official stats.

Per MLS's website, which holds the official stats, Villa had 77 goals and 26 assists in the regular season (103 contributions), plus 3 goals in playoffs.

Maxi, per MLS, has 27 goals and 74 assists (101 contributions), plus 5 goals/6 assists in playoffs.



Important to note that despite this mistake by the team - which as you say is significant, they still stand to make money off Jovan's transfer. If they loan him to a European club now and he blows up, his eventual transfer fee could be in the 8 figures. WE paid $8.6 million for him, I believe, and if he plays well in Europe his transfer fee should get to $20 million or more.

While his transfer here was unsuccessful on the field, there's a decent chance it will turn out to be highly successful financially for the team. Not that I particularly care about that, but a high outgoing transfer fee could allow another high incoming transfer down the road.
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Yes. But this also exactly confirms how the CFG blueprint has jeopardized our own product and success on the field. They get some return on a player who not only didn’t help us on the field but actually hurt us by the opportunity loss of whoever could have been signed in his place and actually benefitted us on the field.
 
mgarbowski said:
Unfortunately for FBRef, "All Competitions" means all competitions they track, with no guarantee that they track all actual competitions.

Generally, as I expect you're aware, baseball has always been stat obsessive, and has been stat rigorous for close to a century now. Soccer is nowhere near that, but AFAIK FBref is doing its best to backfill what it does not have.
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Yeah, I'm going to have to be a little more careful from now on. I just did a quick check on a couple of my Bundesliga guys and the numbers match what's on the team and league sites, though. Maybe it's a case where the data are less complete outside the Big Five.
 
MixandKhiryBFFs said:
Yes. But this also exactly confirms how the CFG blueprint has jeopardized our own product and success on the field. They get some return on a player who not only didn’t help us on the field but actually hurt us by the opportunity loss of whoever could have been signed in his place and actually benefitted us on the field.
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Agreed. Again, it's another example of how CFG doesn't realize how quickly this league is improving and continues to make mistakes based off that fundamental misunderstanding.
 
BTW, the numbers for Maxi last season, according to HRB are pretty staggering at any age, but more so for a 37 y.o.: on a per-90-minute basis, Moralez was: in the 97th percentile among MLS attacking midfielders and wingers with 0.50 assists per 90; in the 97th percentile with 9.49 completed progressive passes per 90; in the 96th percentile with 6.29 shot-creating actions per 90; and in the 99th percentile with 7.59 passes completed into the final third per 90.

Considering how good his positioning is, and how well he uses his tiny frame, and how well he organizes the press collectively, even if he can no longer run like he used to, I don't know if he's much of a defensive liability. But those offensive numbers are pretty amazing.
 
ZYanksRule said:
Well this would be a disaster if it happened:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1878904168792166588
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tfw GIF
 
moogoo said:
if he goes to europe and starts, i'd be very happy for him. but damn, i dunno how we would do. i have no idea how good the romero is and i think he's the next guy up. i would think if freese goes, we'd probably go looking for a keeper to sign asap.
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We would absolutely need a new #1 goalie. We don't have anyone on the roster who could be that.
 
moogoo said:
if he goes to europe and starts, i'd be very happy for him. but damn, i dunno how we would do. i have no idea how good the romero is and i think he's the next guy up. i would think if freese goes, we'd probably go looking for a keeper to sign asap.
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I feel like American keepers have had trouble establishing themselves as number ones in Europe recently as opposed to the old Keller , Friedel, Howard days . That said Holland or Germany outside Bayern / Dortmund might be a better starting spot than the EPL then .
 
Can someone who is more rule-savvy than me explain to me a few things:
When utilizing cash to acquire a player via trade, no other forms of compensation may be included in the trade terms.
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Is this to avoid some sort of taking advantage of or some loophole I'm missing? Why shouldn't a team be allowed to do $500,000 plus 30k GAM or superdraft spot? Why is that allowed when doing a GAM trade but not here?

If a player acquired via a cash trade will occupy a Designated Player or U22 Initiative Player slot with his new club, that player must remain as a Designated Player or U22 Initiative Player on his new club’s roster during the guaranteed term of his contract.
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Why? Is this to discourage cash trades of designated or U22 initiative players? So that means they can't buy out that player later until the guaranteed term is complete (i.e. if he's signed for 3 years, until those 3 years are over or he is sold)? I don't understand why.

loan stuff
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Was mitrita taking up a DP spot for us during the time he was on loan? I thought it was open during the duration he was on loan.

Roster Construction Model declaration
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Is this referring to when they can change player designations?
 
RunningWise said:
Maybe we’ve been waiting for the changes on the Outgoing Designated Player loans rules before doing anything about Magno’s spot
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two things - first the acquiring club has to pay the full salary and second, loaning magno in 2024 did not open up a DP spot, but it will in 2025. forgot magno is a young DP.
 
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Shwafta said:
Can someone who is more rule-savvy than me explain to me a few things:

Is this to avoid some sort of taking advantage of or some loophole I'm missing? Why shouldn't a team be allowed to do $500,000 plus 30k GAM or superdraft spot? Why is that allowed when doing a GAM trade but not here?

Why? Is this to discourage cash trades of designated or U22 initiative players? So that means they can't buy out that player later until the guaranteed term is complete (i.e. if he's signed for 3 years, until those 3 years are over or he is sold)? I don't understand why.


Was mitrita taking up a DP spot for us during the time he was on loan? I thought it was open during the duration he was on loan.


Is this referring to when they can change player designations?
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1 - i don't know the real reason for this, but to me it seems like a constraint to keep some balance in the trade market. either a club has cash to burn or a club has other assets to use. you can't use both or some teams may have advantages.

2 - my guess is discouraging bad faith deals and to maintain parity in the league. say one club has a lot of money so they go out and cash trade two DPs from other clubs but converts them down to non-DPs on their roster and then also has their 3 DPs. now they essentially have 5 DPs all because they had cash to burn. for example, miami probably has plenty of cash to burn from all the revenue they've gotten from messi arriving.

3 - sure seems like that was the case, but considering we had 3 DPs after his loan, it must have opened up. i tried to find prior rules talking about loaning a DP but couldn't find anything quickly so I gave up.

4 - yep
 
Gene said:
www.nycfc.com

New York City FC Signs Goalkeeper Greg Ranjitsingh | New York City FC

New York City FC today announce that it has signed goalkeeper Greg Ranjitsingh through 2026, with an option for 2027. The Canadian joins New York City having most recently played for Toronto FC. An experienced goalkeeper, Ranjitsingh has featured in over 100 appearances across various clubs and...
www.nycfc.com www.nycfc.com
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this worries me as a sign that freese is on his way out. otherwise, why have 4 keepers on the roster when we have need for other positions?

unrelated note - that purple jersey looks kinda nice.. hah
 
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