I agree both are true. Expanding on the second part, it's super disappointing that many are taking this so lightly that they are not even doing the most basic things. I went out once yesterday and saw two different groups of 7+ people meet each other and greet with handshakes and hugs all around. The fact that people can't even be bothered to make simple changes to their behavior on the chance that it could protect the most at risk portions of the populations is really discouraging. I don't know how you handle messaging to balance between not overacting to the point that it unnecessarily cripples the economy but at the same time getting people to take this seriously enough that everyone at least does the basic things that cost them nothing but could have a massive impact on how bad this gets.
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I agree both are true. Expanding on the second part, it's super disappointing that many are taking this so lightly that they are not even doing the most basic things. I went out once yesterday and saw two different groups of 7+ people meet each other and greet with handshakes and hugs all around. The fact that people can't even be bothered to make simple changes to their behavior on the chance that it could protect the most at risk portions of the populations is really discouraging. I don't know how you handle messaging to balance between not overacting to the point that it unnecessarily cripples the economy but at the same time getting people to take this seriously enough that everyone at least does the basic things that cost them nothing but could have a massive impact on how bad this gets.
As an expectant father with a couple of elevated risk factors associated with my wife's pregnancy in May, I don't feel as though public officials are overreacting. I certainly don't want the added risks of short staffing/over-worked hospital staff.
I do believe the insatiable demand for toilet paper is outrageous though, but cancelling events is more than reasonable.
This is what really worries me, about 45 minutes from my area.
www.masslive.com
"While caring for the patients, nurses and other staff at the hospital were potentially exposed, according to the Globe’s report. Nurses wore face masks but not eye shields and gowns, as recommended for medical professionals treating COVID-19 patients.
Hospital staff who came into contact with the patients have been furloughed for 14-days, a spokesperson for the medical center said.
The Massachusetts Nurses Association, which represents nurses at Berkshire Medical, said 70 employees are quarantined. Of the 70 staff members, 54 are nurses, the newspaper reported. Two additional people have tested positive since the five patients were admitted for treatment at the hospital."
Not sure how big this hospital is, but it ain't NYC. 70 staff being furloughed has got to be a staffing crisis situation.
I do believe the insatiable demand for toilet paper is outrageous though, but cancelling events is more than reasonable.
This is what really worries me, about 45 minutes from my area.
Coronavirus spike in Western Massachusetts: A mayor, 54 nurses under quarantine in Berkshire County
Seven positive COVID-19 diagnoses have been reported in the county. The total number of patients with the coronavirus in the state remains at 92.
Hospital staff who came into contact with the patients have been furloughed for 14-days, a spokesperson for the medical center said.
The Massachusetts Nurses Association, which represents nurses at Berkshire Medical, said 70 employees are quarantined. Of the 70 staff members, 54 are nurses, the newspaper reported. Two additional people have tested positive since the five patients were admitted for treatment at the hospital."
Not sure how big this hospital is, but it ain't NYC. 70 staff being furloughed has got to be a staffing crisis situation.
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Italy is also reporting statistics differently than most of the world. Asymptomatic or mild cases aren't being included in their denominator in the equation.
I see this all the time too. I think a lot of people assume it is no worse than a standard flu because a lot of media/politicians have described it as being flu-like. But some shared symptoms is where it ends. Also, as many have pointed out, most people are thinking of themselves and not necessarily about how they can become a carrier while not exhibiting symptoms.
congrats on the baby! don't blame you for being extra careful.
I am a big fan of Sam Harris, a noted neuroscientist, who has a podcast I subscribe to. In his latest episode, he sits down with Nicholas A. Christakis, MD, PhD, MPH, a professor at Yale University, discussing wide-ranging topics related to COVID-19. It is a lengthy episode, but if you have time, I highly suggest listening to this insightful podcast.
samharris.org
Sam Harris | #190 - How Should We Respond to Coronavirus?
Sam Harris speaks with Nicholas Christakis about the coronavirus pandemic.
Me: [reads the subject of your weekly podcast - neuroscience]I am a big fan of Sam Harris, a noted neuroscientist, who has a podcast I subscribe to. In his latest episode, he sits down with Nicholas A. Christakis, MD, PhD, MPH, a professor at Yale University, discussing wide-ranging topics related to COVID-19. It is a lengthy episode, but if you have time, I highly suggest listening to this insightful podcast.
Sam Harris | #190 - How Should We Respond to Coronavirus?
Sam Harris speaks with Nicholas Christakis about the coronavirus pandemic.
Me:.........
Me: [thinks about the sports podcast I listen to]
Me: ........
Me: [realizes the divide is the width of the Grand Canyon]...... jeez you’re brainy
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Ha... Not really, but I strive to be.Me: [reads the subject of your weekly podcast - neuroscience]
Me:.........
Me: [thinks about the sports podcast I listen to]
Me: ........
Me: [realizes the divide is the width of the Grand Canyon]...... jeez you’re brainy
Putting this out there for those going tonight to the match.
The speed of the vector..... pretty chilling how it spread from one guy.
apple.news
The speed of the vector..... pretty chilling how it spread from one guy.
New York officials traced more than 50 coronavirus cases back to one attorney — CNN
In one small suburb on the outskirts of New York City, coronavirus cases jumped from one to more than 100 in less than 10 days.
I don't disagree with any of that.
The problem is there is a real lack of data - we don't know how many people have contracted the disease other than to guess that it is multiples of the official total. But, is it 3x, 10x, 30x? Nobody knows. The report my wife read suggests it is one of the larger numbers, but again it's a guess.
And the difference matters. At 3x - the death rate is 1%. At 10x, it's 0.3% at 30x, it's 0.1%, which is the same as the flu. And the ways in which authorities are addressing the issue have their own very serious effects. It's wrecking the economy for one, which has a serious human toll all its own, including mortality.
My father died of the flu 2 years ago, and I am still not completely over it. It was devastating. He was one of over 60,000 that died that year. While I think all the time about what could have been done to prevent it, if you offered me a chance to wreck the economy to bring him back, I wouldn't do it.
The numbers of known cases can go up as much as you want and it won’t change the math that the hospital system(s) have a finite capacity to address this which is compounded by the fact that it’s more easily transmitted than the flu.
The economy is being wrecked for more reasons than CV-19, and the govt has fewer tools in the arsenal to combat it that they should, but I’ve been told not to make this political.
You wanna know how bad the situation really is - just look at what information is coming from our leaders & scientists. It’s terrifying to see our government has now decided that the information they see and make their decisions based on, is now being classified - the only reason for that it because they don’t want the public to know the truth & associated number, and instead want to control the dissemination. That’s very dystopian and chilling.
I can’t believe we’re still going to have fans at our games. This is lunacy
Yep. Seattle, San Jose, and San Francisco have all ended public gatherings. We have a major outbreak 10 miles away from Yankee Stadium, and we're still holding the match. It's pretty crazy. People can do what they want, but I know that I won't be attending sporting events as a fan anytime soon.
Because of the almighty dollar and because we do not have our own stadium.
MLS’s Low TV Revenue Makes Coronavirus Postponements More Appealing Than Empty Stadiums
The Seattle Sounders and the San Jose Earthquakes are facing local bans on large events that conflict with scheduled home matches on March 21. With less to gain from playing unattended matches for TV, both might opt to postpone the games to later in the season.
www.forbes.com
Because of the almighty dollar and because we do not have our own stadium.
MLS’s Low TV Revenue Makes Coronavirus Postponements More Appealing Than Empty Stadiums
The Seattle Sounders and the San Jose Earthquakes are facing local bans on large events that conflict with scheduled home matches on March 21. With less to gain from playing unattended matches for TV, both might opt to postpone the games to later in the season.
postponing wont help us because we dont have a stadium. at this rate i think we will play more games at RBA than YS
We have to postpone this match on Saturday. It’d be downright lunacy not to
its looking like just a matter of time. but the make up wont be in YS is all im trying to say.
They’ll cancel it after tonight’s match.
