General MLS Discussion

I agree with you. There were some extreme anti-us/mls nonsense spouting the opposite on social media. Read opinions essentially saying how Americans don’t have the right mind set and care to much about creating a culture. Firing coaches quickly shows a team is more serious and Americans will never get it. Americans can’t handle pressure. It’s why mls will never be taken seriously yada yada yada. Just insane. mls has its issues, but this ain’t it.

Since the Sands move to Rangers and now Nancy to Celtic I have zero respect for the SPL and their two “big” clubs. I don’t know who those fans think they are. Unbelievably entitled for a league who has accomplished nothing globally in decades. It’s a boring league and the Old Firm is played like 8xs a year. A water downed product. The best part? Rangers and Celtic continuously get battered in European competitions. They’re not special. Maybe you were, but you aren’t now. Sad sacks living in the past.

Since when is Wilfred Nancy an American? So anyone that touches MLS is stained? What an idiotic opinion from those folks

Agreed on the Scottish league. It's worthless and those two teams have a way inflated sense of self-worth
 
I agree with you. There were some extreme anti-us/mls nonsense spouting the opposite on social media. Read opinions essentially saying how Americans don’t have the right mind set and care to much about creating a culture. Firing coaches quickly shows a team is more serious and Americans will never get it. Americans can’t handle pressure. It’s why mls will never be taken seriously yada yada yada. Just insane. mls has its issues, but this ain’t it.

Since the Sands move to Rangers and now Nancy to Celtic I have zero respect for the SPL and their two “big” clubs. I don’t know who those fans think they are. Unbelievably entitled for a league who has accomplished nothing globally in decades. It’s a boring league and the Old Firm is played like 8xs a year. A water downed product. The best part? Rangers and Celtic continuously get battered in European competitions. They’re not special. Maybe you were, but you aren’t now. Sad sacks living in the past.
Plus they have too many shit fans who won’t let go of sectarian conflict that normal people let go of decades ago. Rangers fans made fucking Bobby Sands jokes about Jimmy. That was 50 years ago assholes.
I hate the old firm and was pissed when Sands went there.
Also saw some Hibernian fan on X going on about how MLS/Americans can’t take the physicality of the SPL. Dude- take it from an MLS fan: that’s how you cope when your league sucks.
 
Great signing by Nashville. Underrated player since San Jose is so bad. I assume he was ineligible for NYCFC because he’s an MLS free agent

Agreed, MLS can be strange, guys that come here and look like sure things have flopped. It's always better when you can get a guy whose proven they can perform in MLS. This signing and Cincy getting Evander last year are slam dunks. It's another reason losing Haak sucks so much. We know what he's capable of, whereas Raul and whoever else CFG brings in are always going to be more of an unknown.
 
Polymarket MLS partnership. I think Polymarket is a social good in many contexts but with sports it’s just gambling.
Arman Kafai had an interesting take on this yesterday (he must have heard something):

Listen man, I do a little bit of sports gambling when it comes to other sports but we have a legit epidemic amongst our youth. I went to two sporting events over the last two days and all I could hear behind me was conversations about how a player needed to hit a certain amount of whatever stat

Like people aren’t even enjoying the games anymore. They’re there to gamble and pray. It’s ridiculous man, there needs to be some restrictions. And parlay culture is an absolute disease. Mainstreaming this stuff was a mistake
 
Arman Kafai had an interesting take on this yesterday (he must have heard something):

My brother isn't a sports fan at all. Couldn't care less. His wife is an Eagles fan and so he bets Eagles parlays. It's crazy.

I tried it when it became legal in New York but quickly realized I hated losing more than I liked winning, so I stopped within two weeks. To each their own, but the betting epidemic is shocking and scary and it feels like in our increasingly corrupted culture where everything is about separating people from their money, there is no putting the toothpaste back in this tube.
 
My brother isn't a sports fan at all. Couldn't care less. His wife is an Eagles fan and so he bets Eagles parlays. It's crazy.

I tried it when it became legal in New York but quickly realized I hated losing more than I liked winning, so I stopped within two weeks. To each their own, but the betting epidemic is shocking and scary and it feels like in our increasingly corrupted culture where everything is about separating people from their money, there is no putting the toothpaste back in this tube.
It really does feel as though we've crossed a threshold, doesn't it?

One of my pet theories holds the proliferation of statistics in all sports, even sports where they weren't all that important before (other than top line numbers), is driven by gambling. The more data points, the more possible bets.

But it was the Vegas books creating them and using their supercomputers to chew on the data and take the civilians for a ride, so there wasn't a broader social impact. Except for all the dudes getting smoked on the NFL lines by their local bookie.

Now, anyone with a smartphone can basically gamble all day long on all kinds of exotic and esoteric numbers, convinced they'll come up with the right answer and come out ahead if they just analyze the data a little harder. It's such a trap.
 
Michael Lewis did a nice podcast series on Sports Gambling that is definitely worth listening to. One takeaway - it's easy to analyze what happens when a state approves sports gambling; all kinds of things increase - bankruptcies, divorces, suicides, etc. Another takeaway - unlike traditional casinos, the sports betting apps are not a neutral venue that will take all comers. If they discover you are good at sports betting, they will shut you down. If they discover you are bad at it, they will shower you with gifts and incentives to maximize your betting.

Against the Rules - Season 4 - Episode 1
 
Michael Lewis did a nice podcast series on Sports Gambling that is definitely worth listening to. One takeaway - it's easy to analyze what happens when a state approves sports gambling; all kinds of things increase - bankruptcies, divorces, suicides, etc. Another takeaway - unlike traditional casinos, the sports betting apps are not a neutral venue that will take all comers. If they discover you are good at sports betting, they will shut you down. If they discover you are bad at it, they will shower you with gifts and incentives to maximize your betting.

Against the Rules - Season 4 - Episode 1
Matt Levine touched on another angle in his "Money Stuff" newsletter this morning:

One overbroad but interesting model of crypto is that it was all just practice. “Sure sure sure,” this model says, “everything in crypto is pointless and silly, but it prepared the ground for other things that have real value.” The most obvious example is the modern boom in artificial intelligence: The crypto boom created huge demand for graphics processing units and data centers, chip companies made chips and developers built out data centers, the crypto crash left all those chips in all those data centers at loose ends and available for cheap, and they were used to train large language models and kickstart the modern AI boom. A lot of people in 2021 thought that crypto was the future of the financial system, and they were wrong, but because of their mistake now your computer can write your college essays for you. I don’t want to endorse this model entirely, but it is something to think about.

Similarly, perhaps, the future of … maybe “the financial system,” or maybe just “individuals trading stuff for fun on their phones,” is prediction markets. I am personally skeptical of grandiose claims for prediction markets — when you read “prediction markets” you should generally just thinkonline sports gambling” — but people do keep making those grandiose claims. And certainly crypto prepared they way for prediction markets, in quite literal and straightforward ways. Bloomberg’s Olga Kharif reports:


Not long ago, Nikshep Saravanan was deep in the crypto trenches — trading memecoins, reaching out to venture capitalists, and trying to launch a startup for digital creators. By January, he’d dropped it all. These days, he spends hours on prediction markets, tracking odds on everything from sports to politics.

“As I was trying to get traction without funding, the prediction-markets space started blowing up,” recalled the 27-year-old Canadian.

Saravanan is part of a fast-growing wave of crypto-native traders cooling on the token economy and gravitating toward event betting. Where the action once revolved around meme coins and protocol launches, it’s now about interest-rate decisions, NBA games, and weather forecasts. ...

The shift reflects both opportunity and fatigue. Bitcoin is down nearly 30% since its October peak, and many altcoins have fared far worse. The crash sapped energy and attention from the crypto scene. Prediction markets, by contrast, are pulling in the same speculative crowd, offering a sharper hit: binary odds, real-world stakes, fast resolution. No multi-year roadmaps, just a dopamine loop with a yes or no verdict.

Yeah I guess another way to put it is that young men naturally gravitate to sports gambling, and for a few years crypto was able to redirect that sports-gambling energy into another, more arcane form of gambling, but now everyone’s back to sports gambling.
 
I am glad at least this is part of the deal. My co-workers and I were talking about how these prediction markets are unregulated and players in any sports can just gamble here and not worry about getting caught.

The partnership includes safeguards designed to protect the integrity of MLS and Leagues Cup matches, including independent monitoring of trading activities and collaboration on MLS and Leagues Cup markets offered.
 
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