Is There Any Chance There Will Be Trouble At The Derby?

It's really pathetic that people are anticipating violence at a soccer game. I'm aware it goes on elsewhere in the world, it's just weird as hell to me. Who actually feels the need to fight over sports? Would rather just hear clever chants making fun of each other. Or you know, just watch the game. I think involvement in a fight at a stadium should result in an automatic lifetime ban from all league venues.

There are idiots in every crowd though, I'm sure security will be prepped.
I Feel is a lot more silly here in the USA since these teams are all pretty much franchises when they were founded.

Unlike the majority of the rest of the world where at least in the beginning many teams were founded as amateur clubs from certain cities or regions therefore there was more of a deeper connection since man locals took part in it, and the connection that may have been passed on to other generations.

Though sometimes the frustrations of certain parts of society spills over to sports and causes fighting not because of the sport itself but maybe X team represents the "authority" or the "regime" therefore fights occur, and a million other reasons made up just to fight.
Still, like I said the only fights or scuffles I expect from this match are those influenced by alcohol
 
Let's hope not, but this game has potential for both sides to be infiltrated by crazies who might want to act out some Green Street shit. First ever NYC derby game might attract some types who want it to go off European style.

Plus, for a first ever meeting of teams, the dislike from many Redbull fans of this team/fans doesn't seem manufactured by MLS to me. They seem genuinely very bitter. Plus, you know there WILL be 2 or 3 Cosmos fans there!

Would never have thought this before, but didn't think I would hear of Latino neo nazis at a NYCFC game a month ago either! Just hope that the Derby game doesn't attract people who want to make a name for themselves.

Excuse me, I realize that you are new to this forum, but it doesn't exist a NYC derby, but an Hudson or NJ / NYC derby. NYC has only 1 soccer team.......... Go NYCFC !!!!
 
Isn't most of it in Europe either political like The Old Firm or basically street gangs that attach themselves to a team as an identity and pretty much only attack each other ? I'd think most of us normal fans would never be anywhere near it. I've been to matches all over the world and the only one where I ever saw trouble was Marseille V Fenerbache in Marseille. some crazies decided to unfurl their Turkish flags right in the middle of the French fans and it kicked off a bit but I just stepped out of the way.
 
Isn't most of it in Europe either political like The Old Firm or basically street gangs that attach themselves to a team as an identity and pretty much only attack each other ? I'd think most of us normal fans would never be anywhere near it. I've been to matches all over the world and the only one where I ever saw trouble was Marseille V Fenerbache in Marseille. some crazies decided to unfurl their Turkish flags right in the middle of the French fans and it kicked off a bit but I just stepped out of the way.
Normally the violence at matches is either pre arranged ,away from the police even in another town between like minded individuals. When there is a unexpected flash point its usually fans looking for it with like wise from the opposition.
Occasionally innocent fans get caught up defending their kids and wives.
Very occasionally we have had kids and women attacked by the rags on Wembley way and buses battered with bricks at an field.
The violence used to be alcohol fuelled but is now a mix of excessive drinking and coke.
 
We just want to belong! It is the worst, though. Honestly, those people look like the biggest fucking nerds - to me it's no different than a bunch of people angrily arguing about Picard vs. Kirk. There's nothing manly about it.
As if there is even a debate.
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We just want to belong! It is the worst, though. Honestly, those people look like the biggest fucking nerds - to me it's no different than a bunch of people angrily arguing about Picard vs. Kirk. There's nothing manly about it.
I'm more partial to Goku vs. Superman.
 
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