What I posted was a verifiable fact. What you posted is your opinion. Not sure why you're starting with me.
Kreis Officially Out At NYCFC
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Best article I read on there. Great info, and not a stupid opinion. Sounds like it was worse than we thought. He lost the players, that makes this firing justifiable.
I realise that this post may be a unpopular one, but just read it and think about it and ponder my thoughts.
I've read through this thread mainly, and I see that Patrick Viera would be unpopular.
Why?
The guy who has just been fired did not have a clue of his best line up. He never played crowd favourites, who deserved to be played on merit not just because they were popular. He stuck with what he though he knew and wasn't even consistent with that.
Look at it from a different angle.
Patrick Viera was a powerhouse as a player. Massively respected wherever he played. He achieved a hell of a lot. Since hanging up his boots, he has had a look first hand at what CFG are all about. He became an ambassador of city. Preaching the CFG gospel. He knows it first hand. He has a lot of respect in the CFG towers. He cut his teeth at academy level and knows the youth inside out. Who could fail to be inspired when you are coached by a football great like that. Who can fail to be pushed on in your career when Patrick viera puts his arms around you and tells you not to worry about that mistake. The guy has been there and done it.
Ok, so what if he learns his trade at nycfc and leaves you in the lurch after two seasons to take over city or whoever. SO WHAT. He will leave your team in a much better place than it is now and do you not think CFG will have a plan for this? They will have the next man lined up or in their thoughts because this is how football works,
There is no love in from me for Viera. All I see is that it would not be a bad choice. He knows the people who employ him. They trust him with the future stars of CFG, whether they play for city, Melbourne or NYCFC. They trust him with this. I think that this tells you a lot. He may not win the playoffs, but he will Instill a different mindset amongst the team. He can be the start of something good. A stepping stone for him, a stepping stone for NYCFC.He will have the team playing the game the way it should be played. In the mould of Patrick Viera. You only have to look at the way he played to see how he may mould players. Players would want to play for Patrick Viera.
This may or may not happen, just think about it from a different perspective if it does. It's your football club, your team. Whoever comes in you have to be behind him, 100%
I've read through this thread mainly, and I see that Patrick Viera would be unpopular.
Why?
The guy who has just been fired did not have a clue of his best line up. He never played crowd favourites, who deserved to be played on merit not just because they were popular. He stuck with what he though he knew and wasn't even consistent with that.
Look at it from a different angle.
Patrick Viera was a powerhouse as a player. Massively respected wherever he played. He achieved a hell of a lot. Since hanging up his boots, he has had a look first hand at what CFG are all about. He became an ambassador of city. Preaching the CFG gospel. He knows it first hand. He has a lot of respect in the CFG towers. He cut his teeth at academy level and knows the youth inside out. Who could fail to be inspired when you are coached by a football great like that. Who can fail to be pushed on in your career when Patrick viera puts his arms around you and tells you not to worry about that mistake. The guy has been there and done it.
Ok, so what if he learns his trade at nycfc and leaves you in the lurch after two seasons to take over city or whoever. SO WHAT. He will leave your team in a much better place than it is now and do you not think CFG will have a plan for this? They will have the next man lined up or in their thoughts because this is how football works,
There is no love in from me for Viera. All I see is that it would not be a bad choice. He knows the people who employ him. They trust him with the future stars of CFG, whether they play for city, Melbourne or NYCFC. They trust him with this. I think that this tells you a lot. He may not win the playoffs, but he will Instill a different mindset amongst the team. He can be the start of something good. A stepping stone for him, a stepping stone for NYCFC.He will have the team playing the game the way it should be played. In the mould of Patrick Viera. You only have to look at the way he played to see how he may mould players. Players would want to play for Patrick Viera.
This may or may not happen, just think about it from a different perspective if it does. It's your football club, your team. Whoever comes in you have to be behind him, 100%
My thing is, let's say Viera comes in and sucks worse than Kreis, are they going to fire him after 1 season too or is he going to get a longer leash/more time because he's a Man City guy.
What the oldest and biggest MLS message board thinks of this move:
http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/nycfc-fires-jason-kreis.2026183/
http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/nycfc-fires-jason-kreis.2026183/
I had this same feeling as I watched that Lampard interview.
Pretty ballsy for a scumbag to skip 3 quarters of a season and then show up and call out your coach first thing.
Nothing more annoying than arrogant American soccer fans who think MLS is some special thing that only former MLS players know how to coach and manage, and that it can't learn from Europe. I'm rooting for soccer in America, but the sport in this country is far from being anything special, especially MLS.
Anyone with half a soccer brain can see that Kreis doesn't know what he's doing. Morons.
Why do you give a shit what other teams fans think?
Also reading that thread at Big Soccer im glad Midas Mulligan had the balls to defend our team to those losers. (Unlike some other posters over here who are so worried what a bunch MLS league firster think) They are all a giant circle jerk of the same regurgitated nonsense. They clearly didnt follow this team or Kreis and his decisions.
Also I tend to get the vibe they:
1) Hate New York in general
2)Corporations like CFG are inherently evil and 1 million dollar Kreis was some victim being played...
Also I tend to get the vibe they:
1) Hate New York in general
2)Corporations like CFG are inherently evil and 1 million dollar Kreis was some victim being played...
Translation of the crap on those boards: "what a bunch of idiots to fire a coach who knows MLS. Soccer is played all over the world but for some reason MLS is a giant enigma that only insiders can understand, or at least that's what we tell ourselves here at bigsoccer to make us feel special. How dare they not see how lucky they are to have had a coach with an incredibly impressive resume that included coaching one club to one championship in a small town where he had played before becoming a coach. How can those NYCFC fans be such idiots to think that Kries wouldn't be perfectly equipped to handle a totally different situation. Guys Kries know's MLS! Only MLS people can know MLS, this isn't soccer it's MLS! We know we are the oldest MLS message board!"
Midas Mulligan is our Intranational Liaison as well.
Bravo sir bravo. My head was going to explode reading their drivel but I made it to page 15 somehow.
Also I want to add that these guys all know subconsciously we will be the next big MLS team. On the pitch we will need time to improve but our fan base and community is already upper echelon compared to whatever they have going for them. Its an inferiority complex with them.
This forum is a testament to that.
He'll get more time so long as the team will fight for him. Same would have held true for Kreis, I believe.
The same guys in that thread were the ones talking about NYC didn't need a team, that no one would support the club blah blah blah. Caring about what those people think is stupid.
In many ways Kreis reminded me a lot like Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool.
They both used the same playing style and tactics and wouldnt change from it even though it wasnt working.
Rodgers was lucky he had suarez that year but otherwise did nothing. He paid the price for poor results.
Kreis you could argue was a bit different in that he took control of an expansion club, however he had plenty of time to build his roster and selected some very ordinary players.
I couldnt see anything from him to tell me that he could turn things around so CFG were right to dismiss him.
They both used the same playing style and tactics and wouldnt change from it even though it wasnt working.
Rodgers was lucky he had suarez that year but otherwise did nothing. He paid the price for poor results.
Kreis you could argue was a bit different in that he took control of an expansion club, however he had plenty of time to build his roster and selected some very ordinary players.
I couldnt see anything from him to tell me that he could turn things around so CFG were right to dismiss him.
Hilarious that they picked Ferdinand out as what's wrong with our fanbase after just a quick scan of the forum.
It's really hard to argue with them on that one.
It's really hard to argue with them on that one.
Most of this has already been said but exactly the same for me, I never saw a guy fighting to fix a team and get it back into shape when things were going bad. Instead we saw a guy making outrageous roster decisions every week, sitting on the bench looking bored during games, and the point where he called his own team out was pretty much where I decided that i'd had it with him.
