Mikkel "Mix" Diskerud [Midfielder]

[FootyLovin]

I actually think adam's theory is the most likely I've heard.

Remember, we can always loan a goalkeeper to USL. Of course the real issue is having to carry Saunders' and SeanJohn's contracts at the same time.

Can we loan Saunders to USL to get his cap hit off our books?

 

[ktdNYCFC]

This is incorrect.

You're right, it isn't confirmed, just a very strong presumption at this point.

 

[FootyLovin]

I'm starting to thing we had a trade lined up for mix last summer and he refused (invoking his no-trade clause). Someone in the front office threatened him. Something along the lines of "if you don't accept this trade, we won't play you the rest of the year". They expected Mix to give in and move on. Mix didn't blink and the club was forced to follow through. After the expansion draft, they're going to be forced to use their buyout on him.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

This sounds very plausible. I'll add one other possible hypothesis. Mix could have been the one to ask for a trade in the first place if he wasn't going to start. Then CFG lines up a trade but it wasn't good enough for Mix ...

Hilarity ensues.

 

[joe]

You're right, it isn't confirmed, just a very strong presumption at this point.

This is correct.

 

[mgarbowski]

I'm starting to thing we had a trade lined up for mix last summer and he refused (invoking his no-trade clause). Someone in the front office threatened him. Something along the lines of "if you don't accept this trade, we won't play you the rest of the year". They expected Mix to give in and move on. Mix didn't blink and the club was forced to follow through. After the expansion draft, they're going to be forced to use their buyout on him.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

I've been assuming that Mix and the club have been playing chicken for the past few months myself. The biggest countervailing factor is I find it hard to believe Mix is willing to let so much of his prime playing years slip away just to collect on a contract that is outsized but hardly enough to set him up for a life of leisure. On the other hand I can't think of anything else.

 

[joe]

I've been assuming that Mix and the club have been playing chicken for the past few months myself. The biggest countervailing factor is I find it hard to believe Mix is willing to let so much of his prime playing years slip away just to collect on a contract that is outsized but hardly enough to set him up for a life of leisure. On the other hand I can't think of anything else.

I'm sure whatever it was, it was just a one year suspension and he'll be back to being a key part of the midfield in 2017.

Right?

 

[ktdNYCFC]

I'm sure whatever it was, it was just a one year suspension and he'll be back to being a key part of the midfield in 2017.

Right?

------Villa-----Okoli------
----Pirlo---Mix---Jack----
-Mata------------------Allen-
--Brillant--[CB]--Chanot--

Maybe PV likes what he saw with Toronto's 3-5-2. New DP forward moves Okoli to the bench. Wingbacks provide width, 3rd CB can move up to sweeperish role to cover space behind Mix.

 

[NYCFCfan]

I'm starting to thing we had a trade lined up for mix last summer and he refused (invoking his no-trade clause). Someone in the front office threatened him. Something along the lines of "if you don't accept this trade, we won't play you the rest of the year". They expected Mix to give in and move on. Mix didn't blink and the club was forced to follow through. After the expansion draft, they're going to be forced to use their buyout on him.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

Let me look at this from CFG's viewpoint.

Why the hell would I buy this guy out? (If this is the scenario)

If I had someone who was so stubborn he would rather not play for half a year than be traded why would I give him what he wants? More so, why would I do that at my expense?

If he wants to sit, fine. But I'm not paying him his contract AND then letting him go where he wants to make more and play again. If he doesn't want to sit, he can waive his clause and move on.

 

[ktdNYCFC]

Let me look at this from CFG's viewpoint.

Why the hell would I buy this guy out? (If this is the scenario)

If I had someone who was so stubborn he would rather not play for half a year than be traded why would I give him what he wants? More so, why would I do that at my expense?

If he wants to sit, fine. But I'm not paying him his contract AND then letting him go where he wants to make more and play again. If he doesn't want to sit, he can waive his clause and move on.

The buyout $ would come from the ownership, right (has nothing to do with cap)? So in that sense, we free up three players' worth of cap space in return for Mansour pocket change? Or does Tam/Gam come into play in a way that we wouldn't get it back?

Edit: The short answer to your question is: Because we have fuck you money.

 

[joe]

The buyout $ would come from the ownership, right (has nothing to do with cap)? So in that sense, we free up three players' worth of cap space in return for Mansour pocket change? Or does Tam/Gam come into play in a way that we wouldn't get it back?

Edit: The short answer to your question is: Because we have fuck you money.

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You are correct that the buyout would not have an impact on the cap.

(D) BUYOUT OF GUARANTEED CONTRACT
A club may buy out one player who has a Guaranteed Contract (including a DP’s) during the offseason and free up the corresponding budget space. Such a buyout is at the MLS club’s expense.

A club may not free up room in the salary budget with a buyout of a player’s contract during the season. In the case a team buys out a player’s contract during the season, the buyout amount will be charged against the club’s salary budget.

 

[NYCFCfan]

The buyout $ would come from the ownership, right (has nothing to do with cap)? So in that sense, we free up three players' worth of cap space in return for Mansour pocket change? Or does Tam/Gam come into play in a way that we wouldn't get it back?

Edit: The short answer to your question is: Because we have fuck you money.

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But what's a bigger insult?

Giving him 700k and letting him find a team and get paid a salary on top of that

or

Giving him 700k and making him waste another year of his life in his prime earning years.

 

[Goodfella]

He's a fucking nutter.

 

[Ulrich]

But what's a bigger insult?

Giving him 700k and letting him find a team and get paid a salary on top of that

or

Giving him 700k and making him waste another year of his life in his prime earning years.

As a fan, the bigger FU is to the fans by paying Mix to sit without using him - I don't care if the club wants to make a point and example to Mix, they're hurting the product on the field by tying up his salary.

 

[FootyLovin]

As a fan, the bigger FU is to the fans by paying Mix to sit without using him - I don't care if the club wants to make a point and example to Mix, they're hurting the product on the field by tying up his salary.

Some points are worth making. Others not. If it's a point worth making, I as a fan am happy for my team to do the right thing even if it hurts. Of course, AHABS about a million times, we don't know.

 

[Ulrich]

Some points are worth making. Others not. If it's a point worth making, I as a fan am happy for my team to do the right thing even if it hurts. Of course, AHABS about a million times, we don't know.

I'm not sure any point is worth making that sits a player for 2.5 seasons and shortchanges the roster by 750K. That's a gigantic slap in the face to what fans expect to be fielded on the pitch. I know I expect the entire Cap to be used contractually (no money left over) and on the field (no talent wasted).

 

[Gotham Gator]

The Club and Mix signed a contract, and at a time when he had lots of good options. He shows up for practice and has a good attitude. He is owed the money. I am sure he would be happy for an opportunity somewhere else where he can play more, but I don't see why he should voluntarily give up all the money he is owed to do so.

If he is bought out, he benefits because he can get a shot elsewhere, and the Club benefits because they can now use that money on a different player.

 

[NYCFC_Dan]

I can't believe we're still talking about mix and wondering what happened when he probably put it all on big soccer months ago

 

[Tom in Fairfield CT]

I can't believe we're still talking about mix and wondering what happened when he probably put it all on big soccer months ago

do Tell, For those Of Us Who Did Not See It

 

[NYCFC_Dan]

do Tell, For those Of Us Who Did Not See It

 

[Angela Miller]

I Believe Mix will do Anything to stay in the presence of my Andrea ! They need to correct the biggest mistake they ever made and Get Poku Back !! Right FootyLovin ??