NYCFC Academy - General Discussion

I think they've played together for more than 6 months. These are the same kids from last year. The goal of the academy starting out is to continue to promote the same kids to the next age group, creating that age group in the process with the one behind filling the letters shoes.
So when these get promoted to U-16 the group before them would take their spot.
 
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Serious question for us with blue colored glasses:

Why CAN'T this academy be one of the top academies in the world? It doesn't have to be the Mesia - but what if it rivals Boca Juniors, Porto, etc.?
 
Serious question for us with blue colored glasses:

Why CAN'T this academy be one of the top academies in the world? It doesn't have to be the Mesia - but what if it rivals Boca Juniors, Porto, etc.?
No one is saying it can't. But it will take a lot of time to get there. Right now there are what 20-30 players? We're not even a full academy. We have 1 age group. They have big plans in place to expand and get larger but that's a 5 year trip
 
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No one is saying it can't. But it will take a lot of time to get there. Right now there are what 20-30 players? We're not even a full academy. We have 1 age group. They have big plans in place to expand and get larger but that's a 5 year trip


Exactly. But what's stopping us? It seems like the resources are being made available.
 
Lack of Pro-Rel.

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Exactly. But what's stopping us? It seems like the resources are being made available.

It's not just about having the resources. If the talent of the graduates equated the money pumped in, teams would be pumping loads of their cash into their youth setup knowing that a couple of years later they'd be producing world beaters the likes of which they could never afford. Producing top-class youths is about so much more - the coaches, the organisation of the club, the style of play, but also the level of competition, the size of area recruited from, the culture of the players, the competitiveness of the games they play.

With the best will in the world, football is not one of those "do something 10,000 times and you become an expert" things - some people are just born naturally gifted at football and some are born destined to never be good enough, and you have to get lucky first of all and recruit someone with the ability to make it at the top - and it's not just about identifying the best young talent: I could name dozens of players who excelled at youth level and then struggled to even make it as a professional, while the likes of Jamie Vardy show that some players written off from a young age are actually extremely capable late-bloomers.

On top of that, you could have the next Messi but if he isn't playing teams better than his own he could turn out to just be an average second division player at 30 - in all sports you have to play someone better than you in order to learn from them, and competitive matches are all-important. If we dominate US academy football for decades it could all come to naught if the other teams are so bang average that they offer no growth for our own youths. This is, of course, why NYCFC is sending their kids off to Bolivia and Spain, but those are only one-off events and we need a continually high level of opposition.

In fewer words - you need the right conditions. Don't just assume that because our first-year guys are doing well it means we have the next Class of 92.
 
Exactly. But what's stopping us? It seems like the resources are being made available.
They've already outlined their plan for the academy. It makes sense, it's sustainable and it'll hopefully produce talented homegrown players in 4 years time.
To put together a team of u-17 and expect them to be successful and have a homegrown after playing local football most of their life is like playing the lottery. What they're doing now makes sense and it's what every team in the world does. You take the same kids playing together from a very young age under the same coaches and playing style (that your professional team plays) and keep advancing them through the academy.
We threw together a team last year and it didn't work out. Why expect an academy to.
There's no reason to rush this and reina has said the team has no plans to. We won't see any eligible home growns for another 4-5 years and when they do come up they'll know our playing style and have better chemistry than anyone we can buy with CFG money.
 
When the team reaches the age bracket id like them go to Dallas cup and copa chivas
 
When the team reaches the age bracket id like them go to Dallas cup and copa chivas
There no question they won't go to those. The Dallas Cup is a monster barometer for teams around the world.
 
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If we dominate US academy football for decades it could all come to naught if the other teams are so bang average that they offer no growth for our own youths.
Are teams prevented from playing higher age groups? If our academy actually was performing at a higher level, theoretically, could our u14 team play in a u15 or u16 tourney? Other than older teams not wanting to be embarrassed, wouldn't this pit them against higher level competition?

Again, assuming we actually were that good and only suffered from lack of talented opposition.