Well Chanot and Yangel were both also listed as RBs when we signed them. If they can track forward better the JH (and honestly, who can't?), we can still project the threat of the right side overlapping to generate some offensive production.
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Well Chanot and Yangel were both also listed as RBs when we signed them. If they can track forward better the JH (and honestly, who can't?), we can still project the threat of the right side overlapping to generate some offensive production.
Not being sarcastic or a dick...but I don't think you understand our weakness as a team. Great we can score in a 4-3-3. We can also be manhandled in such an attacking formation. TFC had a perfect mix of offense & defense when they were clicking.
Regardless I did say a CB DP if going that route. We don't fully have the personnel for that. Then again with RJ & Pirlo we don't have the personnel for a 4-3-3 either.
I agree that we've been manhandled but that is a function of our shitty no defense playing midfield. Switching to a 3 man back line makes that problem worse
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Can Herrera play as a fullback?
If he can, this might be the way to get the best XI on the field at the same time if you assume Ring is going to be the holding mid ...
Wallace--------Villa---------Harrison
------------Maxi--------Pirlo-----------
-----------------Ring-------------------
Mata-----Callens----Chanot-----Herrera
------------------Johnson--------------------
If he can, this might be the way to get the best XI on the field at the same time if you assume Ring is going to be the holding mid ...
Wallace--------Villa---------Harrison
------------Maxi--------Pirlo-----------
-----------------Ring-------------------
Mata-----Callens----Chanot-----Herrera
------------------Johnson--------------------
I'll believe Herrera at RB when I see it. I think Pirlo/Ring/Herrera will be in a healthy rotation at CM. I'd like to see Chanot tried at RB, he seemed shaky this preseason and I'd just as soon have the aerial force of Brillant back there. Otherwise, I'd like to see Gomez at RB for development purposes. We know what we have in Allen and it's meh.
He has been shaky but Allen is almost always shaky. He's good for a few balls in the box and a couple runs, but that's it. From what I've seen from Ring, him and Pirlo can hit that overlapping RB consistently. I don't know if Chanot can make the runs that are needed, unless he stays back while Matarrita makes the runs...which we are essentially a 3 man back then. Unless that wide right side mid fills the void. The beauty of a proper 4-3-3 is utilizing the corners with the wingers or overlapping fullbacks, RJ does everything right but can't execute due to lack of skill. The way Chanot can play RB is by us being a more direct style team, running down hill up the gut. They showed flashes of that. I'm ok with Chanot taking his lumps there though.
That's why I want more defenders and more in the midfield. Doesn't matter, it's not gonna happen anyway. Moot point.
We were a counterattackers wet dream last year. Despite Iraola's good showing, I believe our midfield is much improved and there's more weapons all along the pitch. There's reasons to keep opponents honest now. Let's hope that our pourous middle is closed up.
You sorta talk about it here, but my biggest problem with playing a CB at RB is not giving Harrison an overload on the RHS. The league found him out and started double teaming him after his first few performances and he started looking a bit silly.
Also I never remember Allen shanking that many crosses. I blame the new boot deal.
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I think Chanot can get up there if given the license. I know I've seen him at the touchline for us at some point last year. Still, I'd rather him stay back predominantly and slide over for 3 at the back. I think Harrison's go-to move is to cut inside anyways. Having an overlap could be beneficial, sure, but when he has the ball and cuts in, he gets a bit tunnel-visioned and just wants to 1 on 1 all takers. He might not even notice RJ making the run. He can also just drift inside and switch up with Maxi from time to time. Either way, I'd take Gomez for the overlap or Chanot for the extra defense. RJ a last-stitch bench option.
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I could be wrong, but I seem to recall Chanot playing as a box to box midfielder for Luxembourg. Now obviously, it is Luxembourg where they aren't exactly swooning with talent anywhere, but still shows he can play there. So he has the ability to get forward. He doesn't even need to overlap often with Jack, but just enough to keep defenses honest.
I mean it's the move he needs to make when there's no overlap. The overlap gives defenses another option to think about. It also pins back the opposing winger so it's a positional defensive move.
Apart from circumstances that require playing to opposition, or trying to get the best players on the field, I don't know if there's a purely tactical argument for the sliding RB.
I think Chanot has shown an ability to get forward. So has Van Damme for LA Galaxy. That doesn't mean I want Chanot doing that.
I was a big fan of Chanot at RB entering the pre-season. In the short time he's spent there in camp, I think he's been garbage. Tom in Fairfield CT called me out on it and he has been proven right.
I will venture to say that we don't have a competent RB on the roster right now and PV knows it.
I was a big fan of Chanot at RB entering the pre-season. In the short time he's spent there in camp, I think he's been garbage. Tom in Fairfield CT called me out on it and he has been proven right.
I will venture to say that we don't have a competent RB on the roster right now and PV knows it.
That's why I'm hung up on it. I don't want us wasting Pirlo or playing RJ.
3 man backline. Please and thank you.
If you play a 3-5-2 and Harrison plays as a Striker alongside Villa, the overlapping runs aren't an issue. Mata has to play wide left and a guy like Ring would have to play wide right though. I know he has played RM before but that's different than being a RWB. That allows you to pack the midfield with Herrera, Pirlo and Maxi.
From a personnel standpoint, all that does is get Brillant on the field at the expense of Camargo, Lewis/Wallace (and replaces Allen with Ring out of position)
I'll be really surprised if we go with a true 3 man back line, since we spent the entire offseason acquiring guys more or less perfectly fit for a 433.
I agree with you. Seems we are short a defender and long a midfielder.
Would be interesting to see who they would sell. There are some terrific pieces there, but they are mostly youngish/prime of their career guys. I would assume that would mean they wouldn't buy Wilfred Bony though
I don't hate that. I can imagine Maxi excelling in a role where he roams around creating those overloads. Sorta like Hazard with Chelsea. And yes, I realize that that is a wild comparison.
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