Mix would be an investment into the future. He's the new #10, he can be a star with the NT so us having him in the biggest media market playing in our colors in mls where I believe he'll thrive is great. Kind of like the galaxy and prime Donovan
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I think you don't understand the dynamics of the world we live in...
There's nothing delusional about what I'm saying. The American league structure doesn't just generate more revenue, it retains it better as well because all the clubs stay in the league whereas the EPL has to give cash to clubs that are always thrown out of the league. Imagine how much the top 3 leagues in America could make if they started selling their jerseys to corporations? It'd be billions more still.
By the way, just a couple of days ago, a DC United goal was #1 on SportsCenter top plays and SportsCenter did lead off with Landon Donovan being dropped from the USMNT. Both things that would NEVER have happened just 10 years ago. The league really hasn't had any significant money in the last 10 years yet look at the staggering growth. Their new contract is finally going to bring them a little bit of cash as well as the fact that the remaining expansion clubs will all go for about 100 million dollars each.
Consider this, just last summer the MLS world was blown away that Seattle could sign Clint Dempsey at age 30. Then, just a few months later, they were blown away again that Toronto would sign Jermain Defoe and Michael Bradley for like $90 million over the course of their contracts and signing Gilberto and Julio Cesar. Now, just a few months later still, both of those have been topped with the signing of David Villa and likely two other big name players (perhaps Lampard and Xavi) and Kaka and Robinho ect. Twilight of their career or not, the last 10 months has seen more big signings than the last 10 years!
The problem with the European structure, as it pertains to TV money, is that it creates a select few super clubs and a bunch of clubs no one that's not a fan of that club cares one bit about. No one wants to watch Norwich City, Cardiff, QPR, Crystal Palace, Hull, Wigan, ect when they're playing just each other. They only want to watch ManU, ManC, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham and Everton and the last two aren't that big of a draw. That's really only about 7 clubs out of 20 that people really want to see. Now I'm sure the hardcore would say I'm an idiot and people want to see Newcastle, Sunderland, Aston Villa, and West Ham United but no they don't.
Meanwhile, in MLS, they'll want to see Seattle, LA Galaxy, NYCFC, Toronto, DC United, probably the new LA club, Miami, and maybe even NYRB. But you also want to see Portland, Vancouver, and RSL because they are still title contenders as oppose to their European counterparts. That's the difference. More games are more valuable.
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What would that table look like if it was the UCL+ The top 5 leagues in europe though, thats a better direct comparison (not trying to belittle american sports in any way, but that graph is like taking NY state sports and comparing it to UEFA Revenue).I think you don't understand the dynamics of the world we live in...
There's nothing delusional about what I'm saying. The American league structure doesn't just generate more revenue, it retains it better as well because all the clubs stay in the league whereas the EPL has to give cash to clubs that are always thrown out of the league. Imagine how much the top 3 leagues in America could make if they started selling their jerseys to corporations? It'd be billions more still.
By the way, just a couple of days ago, a DC United goal was #1 on SportsCenter top plays and SportsCenter did lead off with Landon Donovan being dropped from the USMNT. Both things that would NEVER have happened just 10 years ago. The league really hasn't had any significant money in the last 10 years yet look at the staggering growth. Their new contract is finally going to bring them a little bit of cash as well as the fact that the remaining expansion clubs will all go for about 100 million dollars each.
Consider this, just last summer the MLS world was blown away that Seattle could sign Clint Dempsey at age 30. Then, just a few months later, they were blown away again that Toronto would sign Jermain Defoe and Michael Bradley for like $90 million over the course of their contracts and signing Gilberto and Julio Cesar. Now, just a few months later still both of those have been topped with the signing of David Villa and likely two other big name players (perhaps Lampard and Xavi) and Kaka and Robinho ect. Twilight of their career or not, the last 10 months has seen more big signings than the last 10 years!
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I think you don't understand the dynamics of the world we live in...
There's nothing delusional about what I'm saying. The American league structure doesn't just generate more revenue, it retains it better as well because all the clubs stay in the league whereas the EPL has to give cash to clubs that are always thrown out of the league. Imagine how much the top 3 leagues in America could make if they started selling their jerseys to corporations? It'd be billions more still.
By the way, just a couple of days ago, a DC United goal was #1 on SportsCenter top plays and SportsCenter did lead off with Landon Donovan being dropped from the USMNT. Both things that would NEVER have happened just 10 years ago. The league really hasn't had any significant money in the last 10 years yet look at the staggering growth. Their new contract is finally going to bring them a little bit of cash as well as the fact that the remaining expansion clubs will all go for about 100 million dollars each.
Consider this, just last summer the MLS world was blown away that Seattle could sign Clint Dempsey at age 30. Then, just a few months later, they were blown away again that Toronto would sign Jermain Defoe and Michael Bradley for like $90 million over the course of their contracts and signing Gilberto and Julio Cesar. Now, just a few months later still, both of those have been topped with the signing of David Villa and likely two other big name players (perhaps Lampard and Xavi) and Kaka and Robinho ect. Twilight of their career or not, the last 10 months has seen more big signings than the last 10 years!
The problem with the European structure, as it pertains to TV money, is that it creates a select few super clubs and a bunch of clubs no one that's not a fan of that club cares one bit about. No one wants to watch Norwich City, Cardiff, QPR, Crystal Palace, Hull, Wigan, ect when they're playing just each other. They only want to watch ManU, ManC, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham and Everton and the last two aren't that big of a draw. That's really only about 7 clubs out of 20 that people really want to see. Now I'm sure the hardcore would say I'm an idiot and people want to see Newcastle, Sunderland, Aston Villa, and West Ham United but no they don't.
Meanwhile, in MLS, they'll want to see Seattle, LA Galaxy, NYCFC, Toronto, DC United, probably the new LA club, Miami, and maybe even NYRB. But you also want to see Portland, Vancouver, and RSL because they are still title contenders as oppose to their European counterparts. That's the difference. More games are more valuable.
I was going to make a similar point. I am also curious if that Premier League figure only includes the league's revenues or those as well as all club revenues. I imagine the NFL figure is all inclusive, given that it technically has some level of ownership or right to a proportion of revenue for all franchises. The Premier League figure may not be.
Regardless, all five major football leagues and the UCL should be included if all American sports are being used for comparison. And football (soccer) is by far the highest grossing sport in the world, that cannot be argued.
I would be interested in seeing a more detailed analysis.
Can we bring the discussion back to NYCFC Player Rumors. Feel free to start a new discussion if you would like to talk about European Football v United States Soccer. Any posts following this post that aren't on topic with the OP will be removed.
The deal with Mix is this: he's shown himself to be a guy who raises his game based on competition. He's also a loyal guy who stuck with his original club despite other opportunities until they couldn't afford him after relegation.
How important was he to Staebek? They went to him about their recent manager hire, and his rec helped seal their decision.
Now, he's at a big club for Norway and will be teed up for a move after the World Cup.
He's come a long way in the last year alone, finally adding some physicality to his game. He would be the guy who, if here, would be the most natural "Jeter" for us - the talisman to the fans and media and the long-term face of the franchise. He's young, personable and charming. And he is a strong attacking midfielder that could fill all these roles and not break the bank (the salary rules in our case).
We need a US international because casual fans will show up for that. Unless FC Bayern wants to loan us Julian Green, he's probably the best option for us. Consider the clamoring for him in the context, and it's hard to identify anyone better. As I've said before, I don't think TFC is going to let us take Bradley.
I'd love to see us go grab a Paul Arriola or a Greg Garza, but those guys are not yet on casual folks radars. Nevertheless, maybe we'll get one of those guys. It'll be hard though, as ligaMX doesn't sell cheap.
How important was he to Staebek? They went to him about their recent manager hire, and his rec helped seal their decision.
Now, he's at a big club for Norway and will be teed up for a move after the World Cup.
He's come a long way in the last year alone, finally adding some physicality to his game. He would be the guy who, if here, would be the most natural "Jeter" for us - the talisman to the fans and media and the long-term face of the franchise. He's young, personable and charming. And he is a strong attacking midfielder that could fill all these roles and not break the bank (the salary rules in our case).
We need a US international because casual fans will show up for that. Unless FC Bayern wants to loan us Julian Green, he's probably the best option for us. Consider the clamoring for him in the context, and it's hard to identify anyone better. As I've said before, I don't think TFC is going to let us take Bradley.
I'd love to see us go grab a Paul Arriola or a Greg Garza, but those guys are not yet on casual folks radars. Nevertheless, maybe we'll get one of those guys. It'll be hard though, as ligaMX doesn't sell cheap.
What are your thoughts regarding the American players I mentioned that are getting a fair amount of attention in Europe (which is usually a sign of high potential)—much more than Diskerud?
Paul Arriola is on the outs at Tijuana last I heard. He's not getting along well with the new manager. When's his contract up? I'd really rather not give the Mexican league a dime -- ever.
By the way, the reason he's at Tijuana is he didn't want to be far from San Diego, his home. He was young when he turned down LA for Tijuana but I wonder if he'd come all the way cross country or just stay at LA? He could be LA's next Landon Donovan. A great player that would rather just be in LA than anywhere else.
I respect the opinion of the foreign guys here. But you don't understand NY and America.
John Brooks might be better at what he does. Johannsen is a stud.
But this is NY. People treat Joe Namath as if he is the greatest QB whoever lived because he added to style to substance.
You have to understand NYC.
John Brooks might be better at what he does. Johannsen is a stud.
But this is NY. People treat Joe Namath as if he is the greatest QB whoever lived because he added to style to substance.
You have to understand NYC.
Ahh, so generally, Americans prefer a personality to talent?
If you had a chance in hell to get Balotelli you would be set.
Or King Zlatan
Ibra was actually who I was hoping would be our marquee signing. But that was more of a fantasy than any real hope of reality.
Talent is not "Charlie Hustle", that would be a grafter (a person that works hard but has little talent otherwise).
I've spent quite a lot of time in the US, and NYC, and my experience is that mediocrity is rarely rewarded at the highest level (I've seen what happens to a Jets quarterback after a series of poor performances). My view is that while Diskerud might be a glamorous component to the squad, he may not offer as much as other Americans that you could grow into a stronger, more legitimate brand. That is, talent and personality, which is what it sounds you want.
Or King Zlatan
Ibra was actually who I was hoping would be our marquee signing. But that was more of a fantasy than any real hope of reality.
That would certainly be the best of both worlds. ;-)
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The casual American could care less about what JA Brooks brings to the pitch. They don't want a CB.
ArJo would be a DP. I understand Villa plays up top with another Striker. But can't see spending two DP slots on strikers.
Kind if hard to compare what ArJo is doing on the Continent and what Mix has done, no?
ArJo would be a DP. I understand Villa plays up top with another Striker. But can't see spending two DP slots on strikers.
Kind if hard to compare what ArJo is doing on the Continent and what Mix has done, no?
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