True, pretty much the whole team was disjointed, but I just want to be completely clear that I do not like Timmy Chandler. Outside of a rocket shot goal from outside the box in some friendly (can't remember who the opponent was), I don't ever remember him playing well at all for the USMNT.
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I still think it comes down to the spine, of the team, which is Brooks and Cameron (injury), Bradley, Jones and Altidore. While I disagree with Bradley, Jones and Altidore, I also don't see anybody making an overwhelming case to supplant them.
I think JK would love to dump them since their moves to MLS, but no one is grabbing the job, and he seems to have given everyone a chance to impress in camps.
I think JK would love to dump them since their moves to MLS, but no one is grabbing the job, and he seems to have given everyone a chance to impress in camps.
I think part of the problem is JK doesn't want to take the same chance he did with germany, and unfortunately it's possibly too late now to benefit from it. To recap, JK pretty much replaced every starter on the Ger team when he got there and let youth grow into their spots, not without early growing pains - they got four years to do it and look how successful it was (albeit with severely talented players). JK needed to kick some of our guys to the curb early on and let their replacements have real time to adjust when results weren't as critical. We now have to do it and it's going to be disjointed at best.
I like how he dons a jacket and tie to dramatize himself raging at 2am, but wears a collarless shirt for his web show.
Substantively -- on point.
I like how he calls out Sunil feeling compelled to watch to see "what hell Jimmy is running his mouth about now".
If we dump JK, we also probably get Nagbe and Benny back. That helps with our midfield without even discussing tactics. Maybe even Landon has a little magic left as a super sub to help us qualify...
The buzz is that the almighty Bruce Arena said that foreign born players - many born to servicemen parents stationed overseas - are not American enough for the national team.
What are you talking about?
So he just never noticed David Regis and Earnie Stewart didn't exactly sound the same?
ETA: Llamosa, too.
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Bruce is a big proponent of MLS. He's not against players that play outside of the states, but he's been a bit of the anti-JK with regard to championing Domestic Players. Because of his reliance on naturalized Americans in the past, and foreign-based players, I'd venture that his quote was either taken out of context, or misinterpreted by the original writer in the Interweb.
Or he's been hanging out with Abby Wambach too much.
Man, that is a click bait take if I've ever read one given the quote. I read his actual words as meaning something entirely different and focused on how American-soil academies need to do better.
Whatever the meaning is, the quote differentiates Americans from those born overseas. It's Bullshit when Abby says it and Bullshit when Bruce says it.
I think Bruce just poorly elocuted his point. You want to interpret a quote in a way that is entirely counter to everything he's done in his decades of coaching, go ahead. But as a fair-minded person, I can't force that interpretation on that statement or understand it. That article was a farce.
Abby is full of shit in most every way, and you equating them is just another example of you heating up your own takes instead of offering evidence.
No it doesn't. He's saying that if we have to use Americans raised in other countries then our own system in MLS isn't getting the job done.
Abby and Bruce are saying two different things and these current writers are simply looking for clicks. Abby is xenophobic and Bruce is critical of MLS' development system - by using foreign based/raised players as a barometer.
I'd really like to hear what else, if anything, Bruce said right before and after that quote, but going only by what was shown I'd agree with Tom. Bruce made 2 separate statements that really don't have anything to do with each other. Yes the second part was about the MLS academies not progressing, but he began by saying "Players on the national team should be American" as though that's only an option currently. He's either implying there are players on the team that are not American (a la Abby) or he's saying that only Americans who developed in the US should be on the national team. Either one is dumb IMO.
Takes a lawyer to make an actual point around here. Now that I can understand.
I tend to think he still just mis-used American as a verbal shortcut, which is dumb.
I would like to see more context, too. Look, it's not beyond the pale that he's a crazy old man. I would probably give you that. But the good thing is, he's a crazy old man who will choose the resources available to him that give him the best chance to win.
I don't want him as manager for forever. I want to make the 2018 WC. I'm not sure Jurgen gets us there.
We've had unexpected results with Jurgen on the good and bad side, but we also overachieved in Brazil under him. Ultimately, we've played two of our three most difficult games in the hex so far, I have high confidence we will be fine for Russia.
Switching coaches would lower my confidence.
Switching coaches would lower my confidence.
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