2016 Mls College Superdraft

[Ulrich]

I'll remind everyone that Khiry Shelton was considered the most MLS ready player coming out the draft last year.

Really? I just looked up some write-ups about potential players that were posted throughout the year leading up to the draft. I cannot find one that says Shelton was the most MLS ready player (although he was the fastest at the combine):

http://collegesoccernews.com/index....-college-soccer-news-top-2015-draft-prospects
http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/mls-draft-targets-for-2015_aid32435
http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/2015-mls-draft:-big-board-v-10_aid35455
http://www.socceramerica.com/articl...rs-who-define-college-crop.html?edition=13232
http://www.draftutopia.com/2015mlsmockdraft.html

even SBI whom loves to hedge his bets doesn't have rated him there: http://sbisoccer.com/2014/08/draft-college-prospects

 

[gbservis]

I'm thinking maybe Jack will be a TAM player in the future. I hope NYCFC does enough to keep him around as it's great to have someone familiar/who lives/d in the City on the roster -- one of the added bonuses of having Jack on the roster. Much better option than having Jack off the roster, clearly.

Let's wait and see how he develops before we all start projecting that we are going to loose him to MCFC or that we will need to use TAM on him. Between this and the talk that we will need a DP slot for Poku in the next 1-3 years I think we are all confusing potential with guaranteed star player status. Unfortunately there is not such thing as the latter.

 

[Tom in Fairfield CT]

Really? I just looked up some write-ups about potential players that were posted throughout the year leading up to the draft. I cannot find one that says Shelton was the most MLS ready player (although he was the fastest at the combine):

http://collegesoccernews.com/index....-college-soccer-news-top-2015-draft-prospects
http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/mls-draft-targets-for-2015_aid32435
http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/2015-mls-draft:-big-board-v-10_aid35455
http://www.socceramerica.com/articl...rs-who-define-college-crop.html?edition=13232
http://www.draftutopia.com/2015mlsmockdraft.html

even SBI whom loves to hedge his bets doesn't have rated him there: http://sbisoccer.com/2014/08/draft-college-prospects

http://www.empireofsoccer.com/strong-shelton-brandt-31483/
With the second pick, NYCFC chose the most MLS-ready forward of the 2015 class — 6’3″ Oregon State product, Khiry Shelton.


I guess I misremembered the quotes from the time.

 

[Keith Putnam]

I'll remind everyone that Khiry Shelton was considered the most MLS ready player coming out the draft last year.

Sure, but Khiry also spent a good long while injured. We have no idea how he may have performed if he'd stayed healthy. Here's hoping our new boy keeps all his joints and muscles intact for the whole season.

 

[NickA]

I'll remind everyone that Khiry Shelton was considered the most MLS ready player coming out the draft last year.

I'm excited what Shelton can do on this team. If he wasn't hurt, we would have seen a lot more of him. The guy can't finish but has some really good potential. I don't think that your point is necessarily a dig on Harrison.

 

[Ulrich]

http://www.empireofsoccer.com/strong-shelton-brandt-31483/
With the second pick, NYCFC chose the most MLS-ready forward of the 2015 class — 6’3″ Oregon State product, Khiry Shelton.


I guess I misremembered the quotes from the time.

I'm really not trying to be obtuse with this, but EoS isn't a website to put a lot of stock in for comprehensive analysis - it's a guy's biased passion blog. Soccer America, Top Drawer Soccer, and College Soccer News are far more established and unbiased sites.

 

[Gavin23]

Real question is if Jack is on fifa yet and what his rating is.

 

[Tom in Fairfield CT]

I'm really not trying to be obtuse with this, but EoS isn't a website to put a lot of stock in for comprehensive analysis - it's a guy's biased passion blog. Soccer America, Top Drawer Soccer, and College Soccer News are far more established and unbiased sites.

You are trying to prove my statement wrong and you did. And I told you you did by showing you the one place I could find that, contrasted to your five links, and saying I had misremembered the quotes from the time. Your obtuseness comes from your desire to keep pushing after you've won.

 

[Ulrich]

You are trying to prove my statement wrong and you did. And I told you you did by showing you the one place I could find that, contrasted to your five links, and saying I had misremembered the quotes from the time. Your obtuseness comes from your desire to keep pushing after you've won.

My apologies then as I don't purposefully kick when somebody is down - I interpreted your link to EoS as continued validation of your point coupled with your comment (which in hindsight wasn't snark). I owe you a beer.

I do get worked up over EoS links which unintentionally push my buttons.

 

[NickA]

Real question is if Jack is on fifa yet and what his rating is.

64 Rated Rare Bronze

 

[sbrylski]

Real question is if Jack is on fifa yet and what his rating is.

Shelton is at 63/70, and Poku is 67/75, so I'll bet Harrison is around 63/75.

Actual talent around that of Shelton, potential similar to Poku's.

 

[Gotham Gator]

Think Harrison is happy we executed that trade?

https://twitter.com/x/status/688060190344609792

 

[Ulrich]

Think Harrison is happy we executed that trade?

https://twitter.com/x/status/688060190344609792

As I posted elsewhere, the kid is classy and mature.

 

[Viewfrom226]

As I posted elsewhere, the kid is classy and mature.

He does seem to carry himself incredibly well. Hopefully the guy can play, because given his apparent personality, the circumstances of him coming to the club as a number one pick and the fact that people naturally love attacking players, he is so well set up to become an icon here.

 

[BxLio91]

He does seem to carry himself incredibly well. Hopefully the guy can play, because given his apparent personality, the circumstances of him coming to the club as a number one pick and the fact that people naturally love attacking players, he is so well set up to become an icon here.

Views from the 6

 

[LionNYC]

Rounds 3 and 4 will be conducted via conference call on Tuesday (19th). We have no picks but someone will be at the phones in case a trade arises.

 

[Ohenry]

He does seem to carry himself incredibly well. Hopefully the guy can play, because given his apparent personality, the circumstances of him coming to the club as a number one pick and the fact that people naturally love attacking players, he is so well set up to become an icon here.

I wonder if Joe D. and The Mick arrived with this level of expectation by some (not all or not necessarily many).

 

[Ulrich]

I wonder if Joe D. and The Mick arrived with this level of expectation by some (not all or not necessarily many).

Oh Henry..... Did you bother to look it up before posting, because you're not asking a rhetorical question?

Here are a few snippets you would have found:
Joe Dimaggio

1. In three full minor leagues seasons with San Francisco he batted .340, .341 and .398 (so he had a basis of ability to be excited about)
   
2. He was traded from San Francisco to the Yankees November 21, 1934 for 5 players and $25,000
3. His rookie salary was $8500, but it went to $15,000 the next year

He was considered a huge deal when traded for and the Yankees pulled out all of the stops to make it happen. $25K adjusted for inflation is $444K which is a tremendous amount in 1934. An establish player such as Ruth was only making $35K in 1934 - so his $8.5K was a big deal for a teenager. To put it in perspective, Dimaggio was making as much as a US Congressman ($8663), slightly more than an airline pilot ($8000), and over 6x the average person ($1368): 1943 pay scale

Since there was no internet back in 1934 and the Newspaper print media was the common man's point of information, therefore it's rather telling too that the Times led the page with his trade transaction and gave him a large photo: NYTimes 1934

Nobody knows if Jack Harrison will light up the league his first season, but there's ample reason for supporters to get excited over his arrival.

 

[LionNYC]

Oh Henry..... Did you bother to look it up before posting, because you're not asking a rhetorical question?

Here are a few snippets you would have found:
Joe Dimaggio

1. In three full minor leagues seasons with San Francisco he batted .340, .341 and .398 (so he had a basis of ability to be excited about)
   
2. He was traded from San Francisco to the Yankees November 21, 1934 for 5 players and $25,000
3. His rookie salary was $8500, but it went to $15,000 the next year

He was considered a huge deal when traded for and the Yankees pulled out all of the stops to make it happen. $25K adjusted for inflation is $444K which is a tremendous amount in 1934. An establish player such as Ruth was only making $35K in 1934 - so his $8.5K was a big deal for a teenager. To put it in perspective, Dimaggio was making as much as a US Congressman ($8663), slightly more than an airline pilot ($8000), and over 6x the average person ($1368): 1943 pay scale

Since there was no internet back in 1934 and the Newspaper print media was the common man's point of information, therefore it's rather telling too that the Times led the page with his trade transaction and gave him a large photo: NYTimes 1934

Nobody knows if Jack Harrison will light up the league his first season, but there's ample reason for supporters to get excited over his arrival.

We have too many huge names and players to occupy the field now for Jack Harrison to have a Cyle Larin type rookie season. His true success will be in 2-3 years when NYCFC gets its next set of DP stars to build into the current roster rather than justing getting the biggest name into the door.