2019 Roster Discussion

What Position Should NYCFC Target For Its Splash Signing?

  • Striker

    Votes: 52 89.7%
  • Midfielder

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • Defender

    Votes: 3 5.2%

  • Total voters
    58
But how much hype can you generate about a guy who can't cut it in MLS?

depending on the team, some just put names together just so it can seem to their fan base that their team is actually doing or planning to do something in the transfer window. or its someone that they may have wanted before and is now "available" again.

EDIT: just checking and it seemed Boca did want him at some point prior to us getting him. again, it could of just been twitter chatter or just local media just saying stuff
 
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If true, this is better than both the GoT season and Avengers Endgame.
 
depending on the team, some just put names together just so it can seem to their fan base that their team is actually doing or planning to do something in the transfer window. or its someone that they may have wanted before and is now "available" again.

EDIT: just checking and it seemed Boca did want him at some point prior to us getting him. again, it could of just been twitter chatter or just local media just saying stuff

From what I saw there were dozens and dozens of articles, radio and TV mentions, etc. linking him to Boca back in 2017, so the interest must have been real. The sports media in Latin America is a stinky swamp but fake rumors rarely have such long and lasting legs. But right now that NYCFC is desperate to off load him I imagine that Boca would offer the least they can, and it would be up to CFG or MLS rules or whatever to even be able to make a deal. Also the player and his agent would have to evaluate whether getting sold for 1/2 price after 2 years or sitting on our bench with occasional cameos for the duration of his contract is a worse option for JM going forward.
 
From what I saw there were dozens and dozens of articles, radio and TV mentions, etc. linking him to Boca back in 2017, so the interest must have been real. The sports media in Latin America is a stinky swamp but fake rumors rarely have such long and lasting legs. But right now that NYCFC is desperate to off load him I imagine that Boca would offer the least they can, and it would be up to CFG or MLS rules or whatever to even be able to make a deal. Also the player and his agent would have to evaluate whether getting sold for 1/2 price after 2 years or sitting on our bench with occasional cameos for the duration of his contract is a worse option for JM going forward.

thats the thing though, i dont see Boca Spending 3M on medina, for someone struggling here. This is not like benedetto ( who was about 5M i think) who was killing it in Liga MX. the interest was real im sure but i dont see it as 3M interest. i see them using that on buying other players in their local league instead of medina.
 
thats the thing though, i dont see Boca Spending 3M on medina, for someone struggling here. This is not like benedetto ( who was about 5M i think) who was killing it in Liga MX. the interest was real im sure but i dont see it as 3M interest. i see them using that on buying other players in their local league instead of medina.

Sorry, I couldn't open the link so I didn't know the amount. 3M not happening. Maybe someone will kick the tires at 1.2 M or 800K
 
This raises the question of what the roster rules are when a player is sold for less than his acquisition price. It's not something that is explicitly mentioned. Certainly, the Club will be on the hook for the loss. The issue is that there may be money spent on the whole transaction that hasn't been accounted for in the salary budget.

To illustrate, Medina has a 4-year deal at $750K (numbers are approximate). He was purchased for $4 million, which means $1 million of that gets added to his salary for each year for salary cap purposes - total of $1.75 million/year. After 2.5 years, he is sold for $1 million, which is a $3 million loss. The problem is that only $2.5 million of that loss has been filtered through the salary system. There is still $0.5 million that needs to be considered.

Now, maybe the answer is that Medina is a DP, which means there isn't a limit on how much extra he could be paid. So, if there is an extra $0.5 million unaccounted for, you can go back and allocate to prior years without it affecting anything. And, I think that's the right answer for a DP, but who knows. Certainly, if he were not a DP, but instead a TAM or regular salary player, there would be a bigger issue. There would be money out the door that wasn't matched by TAM or GAM or room under the salary cap.
 
I suppose there is also this.

If a team sells a player at a profit, it receives a portion of that profit as GAM up to $750K. So, if a team sells at a loss, does that team lose GAM? I would think not, but who knows.
I think that if a team buys and later sells, the first $xx goes to reimbursing the purchase prices before the league rules about splitting money apply. So if you buy for $1mm and sell for $5mm, I thought you first get your $1mm back, then the split rules apply to the $4mm profit. If I'm correct about that, then when you sell at a loss you should keep all the sale proceeds, but it probably just counts as regular cash not _AM.
 
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This isn't even a Latin American rumor, it's just some rando MLS account making shit up. We're easy marks.

i assumed the "source" was a tweet of latin american journalist or someone who does argentina football rumors and gave it to them
 
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This raises the question of what the roster rules are when a player is sold for less than his acquisition price. It's not something that is explicitly mentioned. Certainly, the Club will be on the hook for the loss. The issue is that there may be money spent on the whole transaction that hasn't been accounted for in the salary budget.

To illustrate, Medina has a 4-year deal at $750K (numbers are approximate). He was purchased for $4 million, which means $1 million of that gets added to his salary for each year for salary cap purposes - total of $1.75 million/year. After 2.5 years, he is sold for $1 million, which is a $3 million loss. The problem is that only $2.5 million of that loss has been filtered through the salary system. There is still $0.5 million that needs to be considered.

Now, maybe the answer is that Medina is a DP, which means there isn't a limit on how much extra he could be paid. So, if there is an extra $0.5 million unaccounted for, you can go back and allocate to prior years without it affecting anything. And, I think that's the right answer for a DP, but who knows. Certainly, if he were not a DP, but instead a TAM or regular salary player, there would be a bigger issue. There would be money out the door that wasn't matched by TAM or GAM or room under the salary cap.

I agree. You bring up a good point about a TAM player. I can see this happening with an aging star brought in for a season to put a team over the top. Buy him for $4mm from Europe on a 4 year deal in June. Sell him back after winning the cup in October for $3mm with some extra wear on those legs.

But as you correctly pointed out, Medina is a DP. So normal rules never applied here.
 
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i assumed the "source" was a tweet of latin american journalist or someone who does argentina football rumors and gave it to them

Nope, nothing on Twitter or Google News connecting Medina to either club, and the rumor is ridiculous on its face (South America's biggest clubs competing to pay millions for a 22-year-old who can't earn a starting spot in MLS? Come on). I'll never understand why people get off on inventing stuff like this.
 
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Nope, nothing on Twitter or Google News connecting Medina to either club, and the rumor is ridiculous on its face (South America's biggest clubs competing to pay millions for a 22-year-old who can't earn a starting spot in MLS? Come on). I'll never understand why people get off on inventing stuff like this.

fair, just that in my mind any time a latin american team is mentioned im skeptical. just look at the alianza lima and callens story at the start of the season.
 
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fair, just that in my mind any time a latin american team is mentioned im skeptical. just look at the alianza lima and callens story at the start of the season.

Didn’t that turn out to be that there was interest however?
 
Didn’t that turn out to be that there was interest however?

the report said callens wanted out because he was not getting NT visibility in NYCFC and alianza lima was better window for him. and then he got called up like two months later to the Peru NT
 
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