2019 Roster Discussion

What Position Should NYCFC Target For Its Splash Signing?

  • Striker

    Votes: 52 89.7%
  • Midfielder

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • Defender

    Votes: 3 5.2%

  • Total voters
    58
I'll be the one with the contrary opinion.

Would be a terrible decision by them. Give the guy a season to get acclimated! Maybe it never works, but if you liked the guy 6 months ago you should give him a chance to get through a season before pulling the rip cord.
Possible, but hardly a terrible decision. Doing so allows for another shot at a player better suited when the big leagues around the world are between seasons which boosts the available players out of contract or teams willing to part for the right price.
 
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Honestly if he continues this way, it'll be a tough battle between him and Vela for MVP
In the 10451 zip code maybe. Everywhere else Vela is and will be running away with it barring a catastrophe. Vela has more goals than Maxi has Goals Plus Assists and his team is making a joke of the league.
 
There seem to be two opinions rampant through our forums about DPs:
1) Release a player if they don't perform within 6 months
2) Giver a player at least a season + a bit

Yes. But I think part of the arguments that people are using to support 1 or 2 depend on past examples that are a bit out of context. For example, even those who were dissatisfied with Maxi on his first season would recognize that we had no depth at all at AM so there was a built-in need to be patient with him. Mix was permanently in the doghouse, Lampard was old and not a 10, Pirlo was ancient and not a 10, more like a regista. And even if his G/A numbers didn't jump off the page, I believe Maxi must have had the most touches in the whole team from his first or second match. I was a Maxi champion since day 1 and I remember saying that it was encouraging that he at least seemed comfortable in the driver's seat, even if we didn't know if he had the ability to truly "drive" the team forward.

Maxi was the first DP who wasn't old and famous (except Mix). Both Medina and Mitrita have come later, at a time when the team has depth and you can consider sending them to the bench after 2-3 months. We have the luxury of impatience. Also, it is not heretical to sit either because they were both gambles whereas we had to wait for Pirlo to be really disastrous before sitting him regularly because otherwise we would have been front page news around the world.

Finally, Maxi's professionalism was never suspect, Medina was expected to mature, and Mitrita showed to be petulant since his first game, so every case is different.

Final thought: Brazil plays better without Neymar.
 
In the 10451 zip code maybe. Everywhere else Vela is and will be running away with it barring a catastrophe. Vela has more goals than Maxi has Goals Plus Assists and his team is making a joke of the league.
This goes back to the same thing we talked about last time though... Let's wait to see what happens to LAFC when Vela's not playing. That determines real MVP imo. If he's not playing and they're still ripping the league apart, then he's not the MVP.
 
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Was he even on the bench last match when the bench wasn’t even full?
No, but he was on the bench for a couple of other games when we were short of a regular, full 18. I wonder if he was left off Sunday as a courtesy to him and Memphis because he was going back. I realize the odds of him both seeing the field and then getting hurt were barely de minimis, but that might just be the way to do things.
 
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No, but he was on the bench for a couple of games when we were short of a regular, full 18. I wonder if he was left off Sunday as a courtesy to him and Memphis because he was going back. I realize the odds of him both seeing the field and then getting hurt were barely de minimis, but that might just be the way to do things.
I wonder if making the 18 is some sort of contract item triggering a bonus/raise after x-number of matches.
 
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I wonder if making the 18 is some sort of contract item triggering a bonus/raise after x-number of matches.

Was going to ask that. We probably have to pay him.

He did warn up with Barazza though
 
This goes back to the same thing we talked about last time though... Let's wait to see what happens to LAFC when Vela's not playing. That determines real MVP imo. If he's not playing and they're still ripping the league apart, then he's not the MVP.
That is the definition of MVP....That no person in any sport uses.
 
That is the definition of MVP....That no person in any sport uses.
after a quick google search I find that I've wrongly defined MVP for my whole life. In my head, and how I've been told (since i was a child... guess everyone who told me was wrong...) is that the MVP is the person on a team (or in a league) that without that player, the team would not survive. (or in case of league, whoever is the most most important from all the teams)
...guess I've been wrong my entire life :O
 
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after a quick google search I find that I've wrongly defined MVP for my whole life. In my head, and how I've been told (since i was a child... guess everyone who told me was wrong...) is that the MVP is the person on a team (or in a league) that without that player, the team would not survive. (or in case of league, whoever is the most most important from all the teams)
...guess I've been wrong my entire life :O

It's one of the great perpetual sports debates, but only among fans. The people that vote for the awards have been pretty clear over the years, with rare exception, that it's "best player".
 
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Interesting, I wonder where the concept originated? As in, what was the first instance it was used in.
...So I did a quick google search and found this:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-o...hat-was-the-first-ever-MVP-awarded-in-history

It's confusing because the name doesn't really align with how it's typically rewarded. I agree with FredMertz FredMertz that it's most often best player but with some situation specific caveats. The most common caveat is around team performance, It's typically the best player on a good team. I have rarely seem an MVP given to the best player that happened to be on a terrible team that missed the playoffs for example. I also think in most major American sports it tends to be best offensive player more often that not. Winning the award for a position like Goalie would typically take some kind of statistically historic performance like most shut outs ever.

It gets even messier when you get into some of the "its this guy's turn" habits of voters which happens a lot in the NBA. Karl Malone won MVP over Jordan one year just because the voters got tired of voting for Jordan. This year when James Harden and Giannas both had amazing seasons a lot of people said they'd vote for Giannas because Harden got his MVP last year and they voted for Harden the year before because he should have won the year before that.

It's a super subjective award which often times makes it a bit useless. Things like golden boot in soccer seem much more meaningful to me because it's based on actual numbers.
 
It's confusing because the name doesn't really align with how it's typically rewarded. I agree with FredMertz FredMertz that it's most often best player but with some situation specific caveats. The most common caveat is around team performance, It's typically the best player on a good team. I have rarely seem an MVP given to the best player that happened to be on a terrible team that missed the playoffs for example. I also think in most major American sports it tends to be best offensive player more often that not. Winning the award for a position like Goalie would typically take some kind of statistically historic performance like most shut outs ever.

It gets even messier when you get into some of the "its this guy's turn" habits of voters which happens a lot in the NBA. Karl Malone won MVP over Jordan one year just because the voters got tired of voting for Jordan. This year when James Harden and Giannas both had amazing seasons a lot of people said they'd vote for Giannas because Harden got his MVP last year and they voted for Harden the year before because he should have won the year before that.

It's a super subjective award which often times makes it a bit useless. Things like golden boot in soccer seem much more meaningful to me because it's based on actual numbers.

Unless someone wins GB by taking a ton of pens. And there are other players who scored more from the run of play.