Imagine sending a guy to the World Cup and letting him walk before your home crowd can show their appreciation.
Dumb fucks.
Dumb fucks.
2023 Roster and Transfer Discussion Thread
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its still up in the air if we still AAA affiliate or got pushed down to AA or single A.
they will do a video package when toronto comes to town. to them thats enough.
but their check shouldn't be anything that NYCFC can't match? the only thing is maybe length of contract they couldn't agree on. which is sad.
Definitely feeling like a rebuilding year once it's confirmed callens and johnson are gone.
Some of that is on the players, though -- James Sands wanted a shot in Europe, Taty too; Maxi wanted to go home.
Santi was a loan; those can go a number of ways. Medina was occupying a valuable DP slot.
Gudi, I don't know. He wasn't expensive, and he was just 30. I don't think anyone really has an answer on that one.
My guess is it's the years, not the base salary. Which makes sense. Sean isn't getting a call from overseas. At 32, this is likely his last big contract. He wouldn't want three years and be looking for another MLS gig at 35.
I don't know about rebuilding, though. Definitely revamping. Lots of good young talent. But I won't lie, I would feel a lot better about this season with Johnson and Callens coming back. If they're both gone, it does start to get into rebuilding territory.
The issue is - our Academy is in the shitter and we’re doing. Or hung to replace these players from within.
Haak is a solid prospect. Gray is overrated. Jasson can’t play at this level. Our best youngster is already training with Man City so you know he’s gone.
We have the resources to replicate the Union or FC Dallas models and we don’t. Instead, we rely on a CFG scouting system that views us as third or fourth fiddle to their other needs.
It sucks.
Haak is a solid prospect. Gray is overrated. Jasson can’t play at this level. Our best youngster is already training with Man City so you know he’s gone.
We have the resources to replicate the Union or FC Dallas models and we don’t. Instead, we rely on a CFG scouting system that views us as third or fourth fiddle to their other needs.
It sucks.
For the last seven seasons, we have been at the top of the conference. We won MLS Cup 13 months ago. If this is true - and it very well may be -- I trust the front office/CFG to find us what we need to be right back where we've been. Obviously it may be a slow start, but over the long-term I have no reason to think we will be in trouble. Over the last 3-4 years, we've been incredibly successful at recruitment, with very few misses; especially for guys at or near the top of our salary chart.
I continue to trust that the front office knows what it's doing, has a plan, and will have a representative team on the field.
I dunno, man. Our academy is barely eight years old and has already produced talent like Sands, Scally and Gio Reyna. It can't be that bad.
Can't agree on Gray, either. For a guy who's been asked to play out of position, and in some high-pressure circumstances, he's held up well. And he may be our best "in your shorts" defender.
Anyway, as far as current situation is concerned, it's definitely a transition period. But that's life in MLS. It's a single-entity league designed to produce competitive parity. We just have to navigate through, and I don't think we have anything like a clear picture yet. I do know we have some really good young talent around.
all those guys are essentially all in the same generation. they won the championship together. other than them, we have had a few here and there, who we have signed, but only one is playing with the II squad.
the academy isn't churning out as much as it should for as big a city NYC is. You can't tell me the red bulls are taking everyone? the number of potential kid stars in this city has got to be huge. it's just a matter of finding them and that's on the club if they are not sending more scouts out. I know they have open tryouts but not sure if they are in enough locations at enough different times to really see more kids. are they even well advertised? that's another issue too.
I've met Luis a few times before. I'm 6' and he was maybe a little taller than I am. He's no where near as big as Sean is though. Sean's not just tall, but he has an enormous frame and a crazy long reach -- just a freakishly big frame for a guy listed at his size. It makes him cover a lot more ground than just his 6'3" height.
Things fall apart slowly, and then all at once. New era coming in.
It'd be a bummer to lose Johnson and Callens, for sure, but I'm not necessarily buying into the doom-and-gloom. This is not the Premier League, with one winner at the top of the table, and it's not baseball with the top team in the division getting in and then maybe one or at most two more below them. This is MLS, where the whole season barely counts for anything. All we have to do is make it to 7th place and then win a few games in a row, and anything can happen.
So basically I'm saving up all my doom and gloom until after the summer, if needed. Not going to use it all up now when I may need it at the end of the season, ya know?
So basically I'm saving up all my doom and gloom until after the summer, if needed. Not going to use it all up now when I may need it at the end of the season, ya know?
It’s definitely time to panic, but it’s definitely way too early to judge. We may end up younger and better in the next month or by the end of the summer. It will be fun to see what CFG do with the open spots and the $$.
I'm also not upset if the new spine does not immediately gel. Johnson and Callens weren't going to stay forever, and eventually we'd have to deal with it. One of the keys to Johnson-Callens-Chanot was having them together 5-6 years in a row. I hope we can do the same with the next group, and the sooner we turnover the sooner the new guys become team veterans.
I'm also firmly on the side that says cut vets a year or 2 before they are done rather than pay them big a year or two after they get old.
Of course they haven't actually left yet.
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This would sync with CFGs first ever inaugural stadium championship theory of mine. Build the spine now (over this season & next) so it’s in years 3-4 come time for to open up the new building.
I remain most worried about replacing Maxi. Finding that vision and creativity at an MLS price is really hard. As good as the core of our backline was, you can build it again with solid players, coaching, and time. Even scorers seem easier to find at MLS prices than really creative #10s.
This made me wonder what is the MLS Top Dollar for a goalkeeper. So, I looked it up. Here are the guys who made more that SJ last year.
- Roman Burki - St. Louis - $1,632K
- Andre Blake - Philly - $869K
- Eloy Room - Columbus - $883K
- Bill Hamid - DC United - $700K
- Steve Clark - Houston - $620K
- Nick Marsman - Inter Miami - $587K
- Alex Bono - Toronto - $557K
That’s what DPs are for. But not a DP who makes $2mm a season. Like a real one you spend CFG $$$ on.
The problem is that even then it's not a guaranteed success. Many teams have brought in supposed "potential MVP"-type midfield DP's that have been trash.
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