No Apology For Sucking In The New Email From The Director

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Just a headsup they want more of our $

Which I will send them. But still, something in the letter about how they plan to improve would have been nice.
 
Just a headsup they want more of our $

Which I will send them. But still, something in the letter about how they plan to improve would have been nice.

Their plan to improve will involve cutting away the marginal players to make cap room and hope that a preseason allows more gelling with Lamps/Pirlo/Villa. I guarantee you that is the plan because that is the only plan really available to them at the moment unless Lamps/Pirlo decide they want to return to Europe early.
 
Their plan to improve will involve cutting away the marginal players to make cap room and hope that a preseason allows more gelling with Lamps/Pirlo/Villa. I guarantee you that is the plan because that is the only plan really available to them at the moment unless Lamps/Pirlo decide they want to return to Europe early.

If we send one of them out on loan...do we get a DP spot back? I'm guessing no.
 
There should be no apology, because this has been a great year. On the field the team has had some good moments and some bad moments; but, more important is that, win, lose, or draw, we as fans got to feel the emotional connection to the team.

I really don't care if NYCFC make the playoffs this year. Nothing in this team's future depends on coming in 6th vs. 7th in year 1. NYCFC is an institution, not a one-year project. We need to step back and enjoy this moment in our lives; we need to appreciate having witnessed this institution come to life. No matter what happens in the remaining games, I am satisfied with this first season.

We've seen enough of Lampard and Pirlo to be very confident that they will have huge impacts next year alongside our young players, after a proper off-season and then training with the team from the beginning of the pre-season.

I do wish that we had a different manager; I continue to hope for another Galaxy championship so that Arena might consider leaving there having done everything in order to come home. But, even if we're stuck with the current manager, we have plenty to look forward to.

Our fanbase is large and loud and passionate. We're a bit arrogant, and we know it -- and we make no apologies for that. We are the people who sneered (rightfully) at MLS during its early days, and who have only now deemed the league worthy of our attention. NYCFC are as lucky to have us as we are to have them.

But we can't be foolish enough to demand a championship-calibre team right from the beginning. Let's just enjoy watching it happen over time.

Despite the frustrations of the first year, and despite the certainty of further frustration on account of Yankee Stadium, we as fans should be feeling pretty nice right now.
 
The second sentence of the letter says "As we continue to make a push for the playoffs we want to sincerely thank you for your support."

Maybe would have been better to drop the first half of this sentence because a more accurate statement would be "As we have badly stumbled in our push for the playoffs, but remain hopeful to parlay our 5% chance into a snowball's chance, we want to thank you."

Dude didn't have to mention PLAYOFFS!!!??? Did he ?

It seems to me the management assumes they have to make the playoffs to keep our interest, which is not necessarily true. But this is prob the reason Jason Kreis Superstar can't sleep.
 
Claudio Reyna would like to thank us on behalf of the MLS because the league couldn't get a decent TV deal without meeting ESPN and Fox's demands that there be second teams in NYC and LA, the #1 and #2 media markets (and the 2nd LA team can't be basically a Mexican club branch, so goodbye Chivas) in the country.
 
If we send one of them out on loan...do we get a DP spot back? I'm guessing no.
We do. It's what Toronto did when they loaned out Gilberto who would have been their 4th DP.

He's no longer considered part of the roster while out on loan.
 
As a season ticket holder in England, and a member at Milan, these standard letters are always sent out.
Clubs seem to think it cements the bond. It doesn't. A die hard fan will always be there.

In this case, I think the letter was more necessary. Inaugural season and trying to build the connection and supporter base more speedily.

I'd advise those who received one to get it framed. It is a piece of history, right there.
 
Just a headsup they want more of our $

Which I will send them. But still, something in the letter about how they plan to improve would have been nice.

I understand the sentiment, but sadly very few clubs openly reveal strategy in fan communication.
A few sound bites and platitudes and something statistical (EG "Nycfc now has 25,000 season ticket holders/ we have added a fan zone for pre - matches etc... "

That said, with us being 'New' maybe we could blaze a trail and be more transparent than the rest ???
 
Claudio doesn't owe you an apology.

(Maybe ask Nemec though)

:cool:No Whining Zone:cool:
 
Hey JackBretti can you tell me about the food in the Legends seats? Serious question. Is it worth an extra $100+ per game? You look a lot more like an NYCFC exec in your photo than an American Outlaw. Do you get those seats because you work for the team?

The only thing Claudio should apologize for is the playoff line in the email. What he really is saying is "We want you to renew so we are going to pretend we are still in it." I would have a lot more respect for "As we look to make the playoffs next season."

Sorry but the "push for the playoffs" line in the renewal letter really bothers me. And I know every single word was carefully chosen before the team hit send.
 
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This is going to be my last post for a while because I don't like how this chat board makes me feel and act. Just want to clarify a few things.

1) I love this team
2) I am going to renew
3) We are not making the playoffs this year
4) Even though I work on Wall St. I hate manipulative corporate BS, and I find much of management's public communication to fit this description
5) I hope Dallas does not beat us as badly as Brazil beat the U.S. Would like to have some pride, if not one point, at the end of the game
6) I am banning myself from posting again for at least one week
7) Peace
 
Hey JackBretti can you tell me about the food in the Legends seats? Serious question. Is it worth an extra $100+ per game? You look a lot more like an NYCFC exec in your photo than an American Outlaw. Do you get those seats because you work for the team?

The only thing Claudio should apologize for is the playoff line in the email. What he really is saying is "We want you to renew so we are going to pretend we are still in it." I would have a lot more respect for "As we look to make the playoffs next season."

Sorry but the "push for the playoffs" line in the renewal letter really bothers me. And I know every single word was carefully chosen before the team hit send.


1. The Legends food is the same layout as Yankees games. Everything is in excess and they have a good variety: seafood station, meat carving station, salad bar, pasta station, Kosher station, and desserts. Then there is a different ballpark food menu for seats (burgers, chicken fingers, fries, etc.). I think the Legends season tickets are a great value compared to other New York teams: 17 home games, all your food & non-alco drinks included, parking voucher, private bathroom (extremely underrated), etc..

2. I don't work for the team. Just a supporter. My avatar picture was taken during the jersey unveiling event. American Outlaws is a lifestyle and a passion, cant put a generic face on patriotism and especially America.

3. We do have a chance for the final playoff spot. Only 4 points separate teams 6- 10 in the eastern conference standings.
 
Hey JackBretti can you tell me about the food in the Legends seats? Serious question. Is it worth an extra $100+ per game?

1. The Legends food is the same layout as Yankees games. Everything is in excess and they have a good variety: seafood station, meat carving station, salad bar, pasta station, Kosher station, and desserts. Then there is a different ballpark food menu for seats (burgers, chicken fingers, fries, etc.). I think the Legends season tickets are a great value compared to other New York teams: 17 home games, all your food & non-alco drinks included, parking voucher, private bathroom (extremely underrated), etc..


They don't have sushi though, which the Yankees do. Only downside.
 
Clubs seem to think it cements the bond. It doesn't. A die hard fan will always be there.

This is the pertinent point here - but not quite in the way you're thinking of.

The club, perhaps contrary to what many (and I don't just mean here, I mean in general) believe, do realise that the die hards will always be there. The thing is, this letter wasn't written for the die hards. It was written for the people who joined because they were curious, or newbies to the sport, or did it for the heck of it, and so on, and are the people who may continue to associate with the team for the rest of their lives but are much more uncertain in their positions as continued match attendees. These fans are not your standard forum-browsing fair - they aren't the members of the SGs, they aren't the kind who berate the manager for not playing Poku, or think Kreis or Reyna should lose their jobs, or maybe even care whether the club plays in sky blue or forges its own identity. They are the ones who never supported the Red Bulls because they were never that "into" MLS until NYCFC landed at the door. Maybe they didn't even know the club existed up until the time when players were first being signed and season tickets were being sold.

These people are not necessarily the sports casuals of the world. I'm not saying they are people with no attachment to the sport - they are just the ones who do not view themselves as ultras, or die hards, or core fans or however you see the identity of the fans who are at the heart of everything.

These are the (paying) fans who the club can gain or lose. The club is writing this letter to show that it knows they are there and cares about them coming back. Now I'm sure we would all like the club management to organise a meeting and basically Q&A their way through the issues that we've had, but that's not necessarily what these middle-of-the-road fans want. The thing is, if they talk too negatively and make the letter a huge mea culpa, they may get more respect and a better working relationship with the likes of us, but it can actually majorly put off those who are still finding their identity with the team. If you start reeling off stories about how badly your team has done and how it's got to do better next year, they might go "oh wow, this team really cares about its public profile"...but they might equally go "I didn't realise this team was so badly-run that they feel the need to apologise", or worry that the club feels the need to drag them into levels of commitment that they don't want yet.



In short - these kinds of letters are not the right place to put apologies, there are better avenues for that. That's just plain sensible marketing. Treat the die hards like die hards and treat the more laid-back fans like laid-back fans. Don't treat laid-back fans like die hards or you start alienating people and make it hard for people who don't want to become ultras to join the club.
 
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