We play Montreal and DC twice the rest of the season. I hope the kids will play.
NYCFC Confirm Departure of PV. Nice Confirm Arrival of PV as Manager.
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We play Montreal and DC twice the rest of the season. I hope the kids will play.
I just don’t hope our manager selections in the future are based on having archival footage of them with NYCFC involved for the announcement videos.
I’d also say if Vieira is poaching his entire staff when he goes, a manager or top assistant manger that speaks Spanish is vital.
And this is still David Villa’s team. I don’t think he gets a final yes or no, but he’s going to know maybe before the other players. With Borrel having a history with Barca that will appease Villa.
He's only been with CFG since 2014. and he's moved jobs a few times during that stay - he was originally brought in to run NYCFC's academy (IIRC?) and then moved upwards to become CFG's Global Academy Head or words to that effect. Now he's on Pep's staff. What's to say he's truly bought into the company and hasn't just appreciated an employer who is good to him at the time and keeps offering him increases in salary for new positions? There's not enough evidence that I've ever seen to say he is a CFG convert who would leap at the chance to go wherever they ordered him.
Even if he is a company man, the Union were offering him a position much the same as a previous one of his, whereas becoming NYCFC manager is a massive shift in duties and responsibility level. I don't know about anyone else, but if you offered me two jobs - one for double the pay in a different company doing stuff I know, and one in my present company, working with guys I know for three times the pay but in a whole other position from anything I've previously tried, I'm going to take a lot longer considering whether to take the one which requires me to learn everything from scratch even though it offers me better money and I'm already secure in my knowledge of the people I'll be interacting with.
Khaldoon, speaking to the top CFG assistant coaches: “Gentleman, Vieira is off to Nice. The replacement to Pep is now open again. New York CITY needs a new manager. We will pay that person one million pounds with a half million pound bonus if they win the MLS Cup.”
Well that’s fantastic. Exactly not what I want to hear.
Edit: the more I think about it, the more this feels like an Avram Grant hire. Went from technical director at chelsea to their coach. Sacked. Went to Portsmouth where they got relegated, then west ham and relegation.
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Mmm... so trying to catch up here, but seems like the probably replacement is this gentleman Borrell, who is currently Man City assistant coach. Has he ever had a head coach / manager position before? Or are we guinea pigs for Man City again?
In fairness, I know very little about Borrell. It seems that some people on this forum know more than me, so don't interpret my comments as an indication of how good a fit he is for the job. What I had in mind when I wrote that, though, was certain aspects that may in part be fairly minor, but I am pretty sure would be new to him, such as:
- Conducting interviews with the press
- Having to move from being a man-motivator (coach) who is always there to put an arm round the shoulder to being able to be stand-offish or even hard with his players. It's not a manager's job to be everyone's best friend. Everyone's best friend is not going to be capable of telling underperforming players that they have been cut. Being everyone's best bud is the assistant's job
- Having an involvement in player transfers
- Being the visible face of the club in the public
- Setting up a team not so that players can learn and improve but so that the team wins
I'm not saying I think the guy is going to be devoid of tactical nous, or that he doesn't know how to lead a training session or conduct a half-time talk. I'm sure he knows these things. I'm not saying he won't be able to win games or even potentially lead a team to a championship. I'm saying that there are stressful aspects of managing that he may require several days or even over a fortnight to consider because they'll be the true learning curve for him. Some men who are perfectly competant - even exceptional - youth team managers may require a huge amount of encouragement and thought simply because they, say, are horrified at the thought of TV cameras being on them for large amounts of time.
I feel like we are being unduly harsh on CFG here. OF COURSE the ownership group wants us to continue to play the "CFG way" -- which, by the way, is the perfect fit for our talent. We should be happy the owners want to continue to have a coach that shares the philosophy that's gotten us this far.
If this report is true, we are getting an assistant coach from one of the best teams in the world. That's a pretty good hire for any MLS team.
If this report is true, we are getting an assistant coach from one of the best teams in the world. That's a pretty good hire for any MLS team.
Players are already taking their mini vacations. Awuah posted an Instagram story from Newark airport. If there was to be a team meeting, it happened. You don’t let players leave before telling them the news.
I expect a departure story and announcement of a new manager story together within an hour when it’s been decided.
I expect a departure story and announcement of a new manager story together within an hour when it’s been decided.
Do we know what the schedule is for this week? Does the team take the entire week off? When does training start up again?
The article that dummyrun posted in NESN implies that he's far from a company man though.
He left Barca twice in order to advance his coaching career. His route to the top has been circuitous because he didn't have an illustrious playing career to lean on. So it looks like he's willing to do anything the club needs him to because he can, and has possibly had to in order to advance.
I don't think any of this necessarily discounts your theory that the long delay means Borrell wasn't first choice, but the company man aspect of the argument doesn't seem to hold.
Ring said he’s going home for five days. I’ll add one day of travel of either side of that and assume training starts up again on Sunday.
Just like in the most regular industries, networking is key. Lot's of backroom things go into roster construction. If this guy can get one of the many stars he has worked with over the years to call a potential player, that is value that most others can't offer.
Villa and Borrell probably know each other already. I bet he had some influence in the hire.
I thought someone said there was a team meeting today at 8AM
I bolded what I meant by “company man”. My belief is he’s taking a job that’s Arteta and others didn’t want, and therefore when the company pitched him for NYCFC he took it because he’s doing whatever is asked of him.
What I'm trying to illustrate is that he doesn't do things just because they're asked of him. They also have to be upward moves for him. It just seems more like he'll do whatever they want because he has less opportunities than someone who didn't play at a high level.
This also implies that he'd consider the opportunity deeply before accepting, which might mean that he's not just a last minute panic option.
I get what you’re saying and appreciate your view, but considering this is the second MCFC youth coach and not somebody with 1st team experience, it doesn’t seem like a 1st choice hire.... but if he is CFG’s first choice, then that says a lot about how they view NYCFC which isn’t flattering or reassuring.
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