NYCFC in the Media Thread - 2017

[Kjbert]

Guys - little secret on MLS pundits - it takes years to remove a stigma. The MLS fanboys that masquerade as journalists don't watch as many of the games as they want you to believe. Unless we become a "gritty, dirtdog" team like RBNJ or one of the other cheap franchises, you will never get the defensive respect that is deserved. I wouldn't get too hung up on reputation.

We play an attractive style of football. We don't emphasize a park the bus or slop it up approach that most MLS clubs do. Be happy we don't play like them.

 

[dannd23]

https://twitter.com/x/status/838927405167304706

Mother of God :hearteyes:

 

[Midas Mulligan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/838927405167304706

Mother of God :hearteyes:

We know. See stadium thread.

ETA: and she's a southerner. Too bad she likes hockey. But if she could forgive being a sister wife, I guess I could forgive too.

 

[dannd23]

We know. See stadium thread.

Ah. The only thread I refuse to read lol.

 

[LionNYC]

This something out of Spaceballs. We're both playing out of the back and not playing out of the back...

Crooks: So, will you always be playing out of the back this season?
Vieira: Yes.
Crooks: Put we saw Chanot do a long ball to Villa.
Vieira: Yes.
Crooks: But that's not playing out of the back.
Vieira: No, the ball came from the back. It was just a longer pass.

http://sbisoccer.com/2017/03/vieira...cfc-build-from-back-even-as-principles-change

 

[Midas Mulligan]

http://www.espnfc.us/major-league-soccer/19/blog/post/3073497/2017-mls-anonymous-player-survey

It's here...prepare to be annoyed. I'll post a dedicated thread in MLS forum.

 

[Kjbert]

I think they are pretty much correct. That may break the heart of my good buddy Tom in Fairfield CT

 

[Ulrich]

http://www.espnfc.us/major-league-soccer/19/blog/post/3073497/2017-mls-anonymous-player-survey

It's here...prepare to be annoyed. I'll post a dedicated thread in MLS forum.

I find is interesting and ethically correct that 58% didn't pick a Most Overrated Player. Anybody that named an actual player is doing so out of envy/jealousy of their contract, and it's a pretty shitty thing to do as a fellow player. Leave that sort of thing to the fans.

 

[LionNYC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/839866119297069057

 

[canchon]

Pirlo truly is the most interesting man in the world.

https://twitter.com/x/status/840200988061392896

But we all know it was Rossi who actually did it.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

Fawning article on MLS site from Will Parchman, one of the best MLS voices around for my money.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/12/parchman-patrick-vieira-nycfc-back-romancing-bronx-2017

 

[mgarbowski]

Fawning article on MLS site from Will Parchman, one of the best MLS voices around for my money.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/12/parchman-patrick-vieira-nycfc-back-romancing-bronx-2017

Read it. Liked it. But it was tough slogging through his extended art history metaphor.

 

[Questionable8]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/yankee-stadium-small-field-nycfc-mls

Apparently the lines are crooked..

 

[Ulrich]

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/yankee-stadium-small-field-nycfc-mls

Apparently the lines are crooked..

Man, that guy is a bit of a prick. Quoting coaches about dimensions and angles that they haven't actually measured but are guessing at, especially after citing that Lalas and Wahl did measure it and found it to be accurate.

Edit: it's also super telling that coaches (Olsen) are complaining about the field's size affecting their players because the ball comes back so fast after a turnover and they don't get a break. That's on the coaches for not raising their fitness levels and tight quarter drills. Hell, if playing us on a small field is so hard, then on a bigger field will be even harder when our passing lanes spread their defenses out even more requiring more frenetic chasing. If both teams play on the same field, then it's the constant and the variable(s) are the abilities of the players (skill and speed).

 

[LeeNYCFC]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/14/andrea-pirlo-mls-salary-cap-china/

ScrapTheCap

 

[mgarbowski]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/14/andrea-pirlo-mls-salary-cap-china/

ScrapTheCap

How the hell can you write up an entire article on the subject and not discuss revenue at all?

 

[Midas Mulligan]

How the hell can you write up an entire article on the subject and not discuss revenue at all?

Umm, how about not making one intelligent comment or even eliciting an intelligent interview response?

That's such a poor treatment of the topic.

Okay, so the article is just reporting Pirlo said this. Pirlo is wrong, but whatever.

It is extremely frustrating that these articles run-down MLS to make it seem like a league of paupers relative to the rest of the world when in reality it's on of the better paying leagues you'll find. And they do it sustainably, without UCL or massive TV revenues.

Here's a graphic I stole a while back from a poster on big soccer that is solely based on the MLSPU numbers (which everything I've ever come across leads me to believe are largely the PU's annual poor-mouthing). It's the average number of the n-th highest paid player on each MLS roster in 2010 & 2016. Pirlo needs to get a damn clue before he just spouts off. I'm all good with toying with the numbers and associated mechanisms for now. This no cap suggestion is ridiculous. MLS is run like a business, not a liabilities printer like 99.5% of every other club in the world. Maybe it's my financial sensibilities that make this topic so irritating to me, but it's just as likely that I am more annoyed by people purporting to write factual articles that skip past everything until they find a few kernels of truth to seize on that presents things they way they want them to appear.

 

[Ulrich]

Umm, how about not making one intelligent comment or even eliciting an intelligent interview response?

That's such a poor treatment of the topic.

Okay, so the article is just reporting Pirlo said this. Pirlo is wrong, but whatever.

It is extremely frustrating that these articles run-down MLS to make it seem like a league of paupers relative to the rest of the world when in reality it's on of the better paying leagues you'll find. And they do it sustainably, without UCL or massive TV revenues.

Here's a graphic I stole a while back from a poster on big soccer that is solely based on the MLSPU numbers (which everything I've ever come across leads me to believe are largely the PU's annual poor-mouthing). It's the average number of the n-th highest paid player on each MLS roster in 2010 & 2016. Pirlo needs to get a damn clue before he just spouts off. I'm all good with toying with the numbers and associated mechanisms for now. This no cap suggestion is ridiculous. MLS is run like a business, not a liabilities printer like 99.5% of every other club in the world. Maybe it's my financial sensibilities that make this topic so irritating to me, but it's just as likely that I am more annoyed by people purporting to write factual articles that skip past everything until they find a few kernels of truth to seize on that presents things they way they want them to appear.

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Part of DP#2's "raise" was siphoned off to pay for DP#3... taking one for the team, or at least for one more guy to help take the pressure off.

 

[JayH]

Thanks mgarbowski and Midas Mulligan for giving my angry thumbs a break. I will divide my anger 65/35 between author and Pirlo. As for the latter, how about watching how your Spanish teammate intelligently and thoughtfully considers and articulates the plight of the league.

 

[Falastur]

Eh, I felt like Pirlo was onto a different line than most people who read the article, when I looked over it. Most people seem to take the line, rightly or wrongly, that in order for MLS to succeed/become a top league/establish itself as a major US sport (delete as applicable) then the primary factor is the standard of play, and as such all arguments revolve around all facets of this, such as how to keep the teams competitive, whether relegation is needed to make sure teams at the bottom keep fighting etc.

Thing is, that's not really the question that Pirlo was asked, and it's certainly not the one he chose to answer. He was addressing the question of what MLS needs to do to compete with China, and he naturally framed it from a very player-centric POV. The issue Pirlo was addressing was not any sort of question over whether MLS needed to be more competitive or higher-level - I don't think anyone here would argue that Chinese football is far better than that in the US - it was what MLS needs to do to compete with the way that China is suddenly absorbing vast quantities of top playing talent and is reaping the benefits of massive exposure with that.

Sure, he could still have chosen to answer the question by saying that MLS is innately a better league because of its structure, and that keeping said structure will ultimately render it victorious, but that's not the angle he sees the leagues at, and when you look at it from his angle - i.e. making the question "what does MLS need to do to attract the players who are instead choosing to go to China?" then his comments make a lot more sense.