Pigeons are the top scoring team in the league!
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But do any of these keeper meet Vieira's specifications? Sweeper keeper, good on their feet, and able to play out of the back.
It feels like it's been too angsty in here for this to be true. Anyone want to fact check?
Agree with your sentiment but not the magnitude. Saunders has been good the last couple of games IMHO, but was legitimately awful for the first 2/3s of the season aka worst keeper in the league. I think even a midlevel keeper for the whole season would have in first place in the Shield standings.
I disagree that there are a lack of goalies that can play sweeper keeper. We don't need Neur but we do need a goalie that can make short accurate passes to their backline and not kick the ball out of bounds every time they try a long ball. Outsed, Clark, Rimando, Howard, Robles, Bingham can all play out of the back and those are just off the top of my head.
Yeah, I'm mostly projecting what I think PV's optimal keeper would be - and I think we may see the team make an effort to find him one. Those you list would clearly be an improvement over Saunders on many levels (overall, and distribution), but it would be a real coup if we could take it a step further and find a truly great distributer.
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Sweeper keepers like Neuer are not just rare - he's basically the only one in the world at that level. Pep at Man City had all the money in the world and ended up with Bravo. As was said above, however, we don't need a Neuer, who can bitchslap a breakaway 25 yards outside of his box with a perfectly timed, all-ball slide tackle. We just need someone who can receive and distribute a pass without shitting themselves.
I do think sweeper keepers are going to become more prevalent, however. An interesting experiment could be taking a young homegrown goalkeeper and training him as a centerback at the same time as training him at keeper. Who knows, in a few years you could have a backup/future keeper good with his feet and able to slot in at CB if needed. Imagine backup keepers not wasting away on the bench for years?
I do think sweeper keepers are going to become more prevalent, however. An interesting experiment could be taking a young homegrown goalkeeper and training him as a centerback at the same time as training him at keeper. Who knows, in a few years you could have a backup/future keeper good with his feet and able to slot in at CB if needed. Imagine backup keepers not wasting away on the bench for years?
I honestly don't know all of the keepers well enough to know the answer to that question, except that Rimando definitely fits PV's style.
Honestly, with as bad as Saunders is at fitting the style of play that PV wants, any of those keepers have to be better than him at playing out of the back, good on their feet, etc. The only one who I don't think is much stronger than Saunders if at all at those qualities (not at organization or shot stopping) is Sean Johnson.
My main point is that in order for us to upgrade at GK, we don't need to spend $1m on a goalkeeper.
The Neuer heat map was just for fun
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Stole my comment. I'm sure we'll try again to get him over the winter, but I sure hope we don't wait around into next summer to replace Saunders.
Here's a rough list of teams with two starting quality keepers we could target:
COL: Tim Howard (2,575) and Zach MacMath (140)
CHI: Sean Johnson (253) and Matt Lampson ($77k)
DAL: Chris Seitz (136) and Jesse Gonzalez (77)
LA: Brian Rowe (80) and Dan Kennedy (195)
TOR: Clint Irwin (107) and Alex Bono (85)
Find the team with the cap crunch that's looking to drop a keeper and go for it. Sean Johnson, Chris Seitz (if FC Dallas commits to the youngster Gonzalez), Zach MacMath, and Dan Kennedy are probably the most likely to be pried loose.
Zach MacMath. Too expensive to be a backup. That being said, if Saunders is our backup next season, his salary of $150K is unjustified. He'd just be a moocher like people think about Mix now.
I actually may prefer Sean Johnson, who is rumored to be moved out of Chicago, but I admit I don't really know much about how well any of these guys are with their feet. And Sean Johnson is a Georgia native, he could be interested in finding his way to Atlanta United.
We just lit Johnson up - granted the D in front of him was horrendous, but did he make any non-routine/real saves?
Johnson is awful with the ball at his feet. If we are going to throw money that he is being paid now at a GK, I would much rather use it on someone who better fits PV's system.
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