Video Assistant Referee
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In the earlier article that that article links to, there is this sentence: "Because of this replay-born interaction, the enjoyment of the sport becomes mediated not through the actions on the field themselves, but through the referees affirming or nullifying the actions at some later time using a nebulous system of rules you don’t understand and can’t predict." (Emphasis supplied.)
This is where the Arena Football League, of all leagues, gets it right. When a coach challenges a call, the referee and another official go to a monitor and review the play. The important thing is that this review and the entire discussion on the part of the officials is shown to the television audience. Here is an example from the current season, in which a touchdown pass is reviewed:
We see that the referee announces to the audience what he is looking for; and then he communicates with the production truck to request various camera angles. He points out exactly what he is seeing that causes him to affirm or overturn the decision on the field.
This is video review done right, with all the mystery taken out of it. The fans' ability to see exactly what is going on with the officials' decision process enhances the game; it makes for very interesting viewing. The review process in soccer should be just as transparent.
But, even without that transparency, the idea that we should mitigate our reaction until the officials confirm the legality of the play we wish to celebrate is not any kind of burden. Long before most of us were watching soccer, we got used to the idea in football that a touchdown scored on a return of a kickoff or a punt was only provisional until we found out whether there were any flags on the field; and, more than that, we got used to the expectation that there had likely been a hold somewhere along the line, and that the touchdown would be negated.
The objection raised in one of the articles that certain infractions happen "all the time" is part of the problem that VAR is meant to solve. As players understand that their illegal acts will be detected, they will stop doing them -- or, if they persist, they will be appropriately punished. While there are bound to be a few missteps and some clumsy moments of implementation of VAR, I can say that I welcome it wholeheartedly, and that I disagree entirely with the position put forth by that author (who, incidentally, refers to MLS as a "Mickey Mouse league").
Listening to the Grant Wahl podcast with Howard Webb on this subject. There is some good stuff in here, and I recommend it to everyone.
We all need to bone up on how VAR works and where the shortcomings may be. This will arrive in MLS in just over 3 months, and our first game under it will be our home game against the Red Fools on August 6.
Here is a summary of how it works.
1. There are 4 types of calls that can be reviewed.
2. The standard is a "clear and obvious error"
- Goals and whether there was a violation during the build up
- Penalty decisions
- Red Card decisions
- Mistaken Identity
3. The process begins with the Video Assistant Referee (VAR) and his/her assistant reviewing the play in question on a bank of monitors. This can be triggered by the referee requesting the review or by the referee's decision at the recommendation of the VAR. The VAR can conduct a "silent review" to see if he/she should recommend a review to the referee.
4. If the VAR believes there has been clear and obvious error, he/she will contact the referee with that judgment. The referee can then either change the call on the advice of the VAR or conduct an On Field Review (OFR) by going to a designated spot on the sideline to review the video.
5. The referee is allowed to stop play to reverse a call or conduct an OFR, but it not supposed to do so when either team is engaged in an attacking chance.
6. If the referee changes a decision, he will precede that call by making a rectangle with his hands (see below) to indicate that it was changed by video review.
A few additional notes.
http://quality.fifa.com/en/var/#work
- Red cards are reviewable, but second yellows are not - sorry Bayern fans; Vidal's sending off would not be affected.
- Players who demand a video review by making the rectangle motion are subject to booking.
- The VAR may be in the Stadium or at another location.
- Slow motion should only be used for "point of contact" offenses, such as physical offenses and handballs. Regular speed should be used to determine the intensity of an offense and whether a handball was deliberate.
- Reviews for goals, penalty kick decisions and DOGSO red cards go back to the beginning of the "attacking possession phase" - i.e. when the attacking team first gained possession of the ball or restarted play. Other reviews only cover the incident itself.
http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/216/VAR_Protocol Summary_v1.0.pdf
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/09/video-assistant-referee-stamp-out-match-fixing
Revisiting the post above in light of VAR to MLS being only 2 weeks away.
A few updates.
- First games will be August 5 - right after the all-star game.
- First NYCFC game will be August 6 against New Jersey.
- Good NY Times article today at this link.
- In the league's testing, a review that delayed play only occurred once every 3 games, but they think it will happen more frequently with the speed and competition of the league itself.
- A reminder that anyone who really wants to understand VAR needs to listen to Grant Wahl's interview with Howard Webb on the Planet Futbol podcast.
isnt howard webb supposed to be leading the VAR shit? idk if this was mentioned or not. but heres my contribution to society
No kidding. How many times this year have we gotten the right view on an official's call from the Behind the Scenes video because the game feed didn't show it clearly?
We're going to have interns surrounding the field using iPhones and Facebook Live or whatever app let's one playback live video.
I haven't had time to watch the whole live stream, but I found this graphic interesting. Average time impact is an additional 1:16 added to the current non-VAR stoppage:
So you're saying you haven't yet given it a complete video review.
He's probably only reviewed it for goals, penalty kicks, direct red cards, and mistaken identity.
VAR is here! Dusting off my earlier summary in anticipation of this weekend's action.
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Here is a summary of how it works.
1. There are 4 types of calls that can be reviewed.
3. The process begins with the Video Assistant Referee (VAR) and his/her assistant reviewing the play in question on a bank of monitors. This can be triggered by the referee requesting the review or by the VAR conducting a "silent review" to see if he should recommend a review to the referee. If the VAR needs more time to review a play, he will inform the referee who will delay a restart by putting his hand to his earpiece like a secret service agent.
4. If the VAR believes there has been clear and obvious error, he will contact the referee with that judgment. The referee can then either change the call on the advice of the VAR or conduct an On Field Review (OFR) by going to a designated spot on the sideline to review the video.
5. The referee is allowed to stop play to reverse a call or conduct an OFR, but it not supposed to do so when either team is engaged in an attacking chance.
6. Once there has been a stoppage in play and the ball has been restarted again, the referee cannot go back to before that stoppage in play to correct any calls.
7. If the referee changes a decision or decides to conduct a VAR, he will make a rectangle with his hands (see below) to indicate the video review.
A few additional notes.
http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/216/VAR_Protocol Summary_v1.0.pdf
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/09/video-assistant-referee-stamp-out-match-fixing
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Here is a summary of how it works.
1. There are 4 types of calls that can be reviewed.
- Goals and whether there was a violation during the build up
- Penalty decisions
- Red Card decisions
- Mistaken Identity
3. The process begins with the Video Assistant Referee (VAR) and his/her assistant reviewing the play in question on a bank of monitors. This can be triggered by the referee requesting the review or by the VAR conducting a "silent review" to see if he should recommend a review to the referee. If the VAR needs more time to review a play, he will inform the referee who will delay a restart by putting his hand to his earpiece like a secret service agent.
4. If the VAR believes there has been clear and obvious error, he will contact the referee with that judgment. The referee can then either change the call on the advice of the VAR or conduct an On Field Review (OFR) by going to a designated spot on the sideline to review the video.
5. The referee is allowed to stop play to reverse a call or conduct an OFR, but it not supposed to do so when either team is engaged in an attacking chance.
6. Once there has been a stoppage in play and the ball has been restarted again, the referee cannot go back to before that stoppage in play to correct any calls.
7. If the referee changes a decision or decides to conduct a VAR, he will make a rectangle with his hands (see below) to indicate the video review.
A few additional notes.
- Red cards are reviewable, but yellows, including second yellows, are not - sorry NYCFC fans; Herrera's sending off against Chicago would not be affected.
- Players who demand a video review by making the rectangle motion are subject to booking.
- The VAR may be in the Stadium or at another location.
- The VAR should use slow motion only for "point of contact" offenses, such as physical offenses and handballs. He should use regular speed to determine the intensity of an offense and whether a handball was deliberate.
- Reviews for goals, penalty kick decisions and DOGSO red cards go back to the beginning of the "attacking possession phase" - i.e. when the attacking team first began an attacking move toward the opponent's goal; this can be as early as when the attacking team gained possession of the ball or restarted play. Other reviews only cover the incident itself.
http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/216/VAR_Protocol Summary_v1.0.pdf
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/09/video-assistant-referee-stamp-out-match-fixing
Looking forward to certain teams' fans using decisions that went their way as proof that the VAR system works flawlessly (and vice versa for those where decisions go against them)
Personally I would rather experience goals, penalties, red cards and other exciting stuff in the moment, but if people would rather wait an extra minute and a half then cool, I guess?
Personally I would rather experience goals, penalties, red cards and other exciting stuff in the moment, but if people would rather wait an extra minute and a half then cool, I guess?
Here's the stupidity we will get from now on.
Please stop supporting this farce. The ref should see the initial tackle is a penalty, not rely on video.
This ruins the game
Today in the German Supercup, Bayern's first goal should have been disallowed due to offside and it went to VAR but the ref declined to overturn it.
Seriously, THIS is what football is all about:
http://www.espnfc.com/video/mls-highlights/150/video/3173365/watch-mls-var-overturns-urruti-goal
The waiting!
The confusion!
The SEARING anti-climax!
The continued waiting!
The sudden intense focus on the one person on the field who no-one in the stadium has come to see or even heard of!
(If you support VAR, then you're probably not really a football fan, end this fucking farce before it embarrasses the league any more than it already has)
http://www.espnfc.com/video/mls-highlights/150/video/3173365/watch-mls-var-overturns-urruti-goal
The waiting!
The confusion!
The SEARING anti-climax!
The continued waiting!
The sudden intense focus on the one person on the field who no-one in the stadium has come to see or even heard of!
(If you support VAR, then you're probably not really a football fan, end this fucking farce before it embarrasses the league any more than it already has)
So it's okay for a goalkeeper to get kicked in the nuts?
Chicago's second goal should have been overturn. Accam fouled the New England players, stomping on his during the APP.
VAR is good. But it needs to be better but still won't fix all the refereeing problems.
If you want a two-minute stoppage every time someone gets kicked in the nuts, I'm sure there's a sport or pastime out there for you somewhere but I'm sorry, it's not football.
The glorious, spontaneous imperfection of football was what made me fall in love with it when I was a kid. It's hilarious, infuriating, brilliantly unfair. Now apparently people want to take the most exciting, controversial, heated parts of the game and hand them over to a guy in a truck outside the stadium. Why?
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