MLS is Back Tournament - 2020
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It almost feels like they gave 2 teams Covid to clean up the tournament format.
What are the +/- numbers? At first I thought betting odds, and e.g., ours meant that if you bet $100 on us you get your $100 back plus $35, but then I noticed the negative numbers next to Atlanta and Columbus and I'm pretty sure nobody would bet $100 on Atlanta just to get the right to fork over another $110 if you win, so now I'm clueless (more than I normally admit, at least). I still think it is betting because of the MGMBet promo, but numbers mean ???
I am not the most knowledgeable about betting, but my understanding is that a - means you have to bet $110 to win $100 (so a $210 return), but +135 means a $100 bet wins 135 (so a $235 return)
I was surprised to see that on the official MLS site but then I realized (because the mobile app is more explicit) it’s also part of the BetMGM thing
based on all the unknown variables, I should put $10 on all the underdogs in the first set of matches and see how it goes.
1. Orlando should be the fav on their home field, with a better roster vs an expansion team.
2. MTL coached by Henry could easily beat NE.
3. DCU should not be that big an underdog vs TFC, if even.
4. I think MNU should be the favorite.
5. RSL can always lose to anyone.
6. No Vella for LAFC, though I still would have them as favorites, but you Never know...
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Bet 110 on Atlanta to win $100 profit. Bet $100 on NY to win $280 Profit.
Negative (-) odds typically go to the favorite of the matchup meaning you have to bet more to win less.
Thanks to both you and
ZYanksRule for explaining.I'm pretty sure I have had lines like this explained to me multiple times, and I never keep it straight in my head, because when I see the numbers I expect the same logic every other set of numbers in the world uses. In sports lines, the + numbers signify what you win (with an understood and unstated bet); the - sign signifies what you bet (with an understood and unstated win figure). But outside of betting lines, that's extremely bad form. If you have a line of numbers, they should all mean the same thing, and plus and minus should mean, well, positive and negative numbers. That's why I always get confused and wonder why would you want to win a negative number. I never gamble and don't care enough to internalize the poor semiotics. But it works for the people who care so I'm not going to tell them they're wrong.
They all end in draws. MGM takes all your money.
Obviously there's not much of a home advantage when you're playing behind closed doors.
i think pitch familiarity goes a long way. I’ve heard players say they know when/where to shoot from based on markers they remember in the stadium.
But they’re playing on a Disney pitch; not Orlando’s home stadium. And everyone has been training at the same complex.
This is correct. A $100 bet on a +135 would pay $235 (initial bet of $100 plus $135). A $100 bet on a -120 would pay $183.33 (initial bet of $100 plus $83.33).
These are money lines as opposed to spread lines. Most U.S. sports fans are more familiar with spread lines (e.g. Kansas City Chiefs (-7) at Denver Broncos). For money lines, the side you take just needs to win, regardless of final score.
One added note - for soccer (and sports that allow draws/ties), you will often see both teams with a + money line. This is due to the fact that you can wager on a draw that will also yield its own money line. For sports like baseball one team will always be a + money line and one will always be a - money line to even payouts between the two options. Well, even payouts after the book gets it cut.
Didn't realize that. Why the hell wouldn't they use an MLS stadium with all the camera angles and facilities they could ask for? I get that they need the Disney hotels and infrastructure to house people, but you can bus the to Orlando's stadium just as east as the Disney pitch. Would look a lot better on TV. If it looks like a practice pitch they are playing on I'm going to be annoyed tonight.
Just to help manage expectations, annoyance levels.
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I think that even though 2 games never happen at the same time, they don't want a single field to get worn down from 3 games per day. So then they could, I suppose, just use Exploria for the prime time games, but that means trying to maintain a bubble in 2 locations, maintaining broadcast TV equipment in 2 places, etc.
Apart from a web image search, I have no idea what the Disney/ESPN complex looks like, but I expect it will be not unlike IMG Academy, Fordham, or St. Johns. I don't really care. If there are no fans I'm not that concerned whether there is a big bank of empty stands or just some bleachers and open sky. And they claim they are going all out on the TV technology, with more than double the usual number of cameras, drones, "virtual stands" and all sorts of stuff that might be nonsense or super cool -- won't know until I see it.
Also for irrational reasons I hate the name Exploria Stadium so I'm happy not to have to hear it for the next few weeks.
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Just to help manage expectations, annoyance levels.
How COVID-19 could lead to opportunities and pitfalls for MLS TV coverage
The spectator-less event due to the coronavirus gives TV broadcasters and producers a chance to experiment with how they present and cover MLS games.
I think that even though 2 games never happen at the same time, they don't want a single field to get worn down from 3 games per day. So then they could, I suppose, just use Exploria for the prime time games, but that means trying to maintain a bubble in 2 locations, maintaining broadcast TV equipment in 2 places, etc.
Apart from a web image search, I have no idea what the Disney/ESPN complex looks like, but I expect it will be not unlike IMG Academy, Fordham, or St. Johns. I don't really care. If there are no fans I'm not that concerned whether there is a big bank of empty stands or just some bleachers and open sky. And they claim they are going all out on the TV technology, with more than double the usual number of cameras, drones, "virtual stands" and all sorts of stuff that might be nonsense or super cool -- won't know until I see it.
Also for irrational reasons I hate the name Exploria Stadium so I'm happy not to have to hear it for the next few weeks.
How MLS is Back Tournament broadcasts will deliver unique viewing experience | MLSSoccer.com
MLS TV broadcasts take on new look
i wonder if the buzzing from the drones will become the “most annoying soccer sound since the vuvuzela”. I totally expect this post to be quoted in a week with someone astounded I made the prediction.
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