2023 Roster and Transfer Discussion Thread
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I will say this: David Lee should absolutely be doing an interview -- even with the team website -- explaining what's happening this offseason and what the plan is. Can you imagine Brian Cashman going a full year without once addressing the media (and by definition, the fans?) The last time we heard from David Lee was, I think, the championship parade. I know he likes being behind the scenes and doesn't like to be front-facing, but he's the sporting director. He really should be explaining what the plan is so we understand.
And I know his answers won't be fully revealing and will still leave us with questions. It's still better than nothing.
CFG is notoriously tight-lipped, and they treat the media in America the way they treat it in England. It would be nice if that changes one day.
Not to mention, he’s the de facto face of the Club.
1 - the club is not going to come out and say "yea we're in rebuilding phase for the next 3 seasons... so keep buying tickets and coming to games!" obviously the club is going out to try to sign players. we need them. our roster is thin. what more do you want to know? specific names? that'll never happen.
2 - last i checked, we have 3 home growns on the roster.. 1 that starts consistently and another who will probably get a lot more time this season. did you want more?
1) I’m not assuming that. We won’t really know until July anyway.
2) We would have 3 in our XI (Gray-Scally-Sands) and possibly 4 if you counted Gio (I won’t) if we hadn’t sold/loaned two of them to Europe (which is a sign of strength). And Carrizo and MacFarlane on the way. Do Dallas and Philly really have that much of an edge in the same time frame?
I am looking at the roster rebuild differently than a lot of the forum
Big Picture -- we are in a major rebuild year because we were a couple points out of a Champions League spot. If we are playing meaningful games in February this offseason looks VERY different.
Heber trade = salary cap room to sign Callens and Johnson (math doesnt quite work but its close). I think its likely they both will be back and very likely at least one will be back. Because of the funky MLS FA rules NYCFC is in a good position to match any in league offer and the unknown is whether another league will grab them. At 30+ years they arent sexy transfer targets but good on them to see what kind of deals they could get before committing to NYCFC.
Talles Magno = sooooo much better than Taty at this age and has all the physical tools and skills to be a 20 goal scorer in MLS. I remember when Heber went down and we had 'no strikers and had to play a winger (Taty) out of position'. That worked out pretty well.
DP = with the stadium announcement I think the club is going to try for an oh wow kind of pre-contract signing this year to get someone coming over on a free this summer (I am thinking a Shaqiri type signing) to pull the strings and replace Maxi. This is MLS, we just have to be good from February through June and gear up to win League Cup in July and eventually have (another) real chance to win MLS Cup.
HG = I rate Tayvon highly and think his future will be as a CB and not an RB, McFarlane and Carrazza seem to be very highly rated (I havent seen them).
Assuming SJ resigns we are strong in 10 of the 11 starting spots and probably have more depth than the Union. I am expecting we push Parks higher upfield into more of a 10 role until the new DP arrives. Justin (who hopefully will improve like James did in year 2) will probably slot next to Morales and Tayvon will replace Callens if needed.
FO has literally known Maxi was about to leave for years and have given a lot of thought about his replacement.
I am not upset at all that we arent hearing about negotiations. We all should know that FO is working on the roster and just have to wait to see who signs.
Big Picture -- we are in a major rebuild year because we were a couple points out of a Champions League spot. If we are playing meaningful games in February this offseason looks VERY different.
Heber trade = salary cap room to sign Callens and Johnson (math doesnt quite work but its close). I think its likely they both will be back and very likely at least one will be back. Because of the funky MLS FA rules NYCFC is in a good position to match any in league offer and the unknown is whether another league will grab them. At 30+ years they arent sexy transfer targets but good on them to see what kind of deals they could get before committing to NYCFC.
Talles Magno = sooooo much better than Taty at this age and has all the physical tools and skills to be a 20 goal scorer in MLS. I remember when Heber went down and we had 'no strikers and had to play a winger (Taty) out of position'. That worked out pretty well.
DP = with the stadium announcement I think the club is going to try for an oh wow kind of pre-contract signing this year to get someone coming over on a free this summer (I am thinking a Shaqiri type signing) to pull the strings and replace Maxi. This is MLS, we just have to be good from February through June and gear up to win League Cup in July and eventually have (another) real chance to win MLS Cup.
HG = I rate Tayvon highly and think his future will be as a CB and not an RB, McFarlane and Carrazza seem to be very highly rated (I havent seen them).
Assuming SJ resigns we are strong in 10 of the 11 starting spots and probably have more depth than the Union. I am expecting we push Parks higher upfield into more of a 10 role until the new DP arrives. Justin (who hopefully will improve like James did in year 2) will probably slot next to Morales and Tayvon will replace Callens if needed.
FO has literally known Maxi was about to leave for years and have given a lot of thought about his replacement.
I am not upset at all that we arent hearing about negotiations. We all should know that FO is working on the roster and just have to wait to see who signs.
Worth mentioning that Taylor Twellman basically confirmed a possibility that I had meant to post here. That another MLS team could come to an agreement with Callens (or Johnson) that exceeds the MLS rules around free agency. Then the team would have to do a trade with us for his rights. Not all that complicated, and its something that you see in other U.S. sports leagues.
I'm not taking anything this account passes along as info he's been told correctly as good info until he provides some information that isn't basically a Google translate of someone else's tweet.
What he does do in terms of finding all this information out there is incredibly valuable and it takes a good deal of work to do that. But to portray it as information he's received directly when it follows someone else's tweet is a bit disingenuous and as such, I can't put any weight whatsoever in information he passes along as info he's directly received.
But Roberto's info is definitely encouraging.
Would that be a sign-and-trade scenario? We'd have to sign him at max TAM and then trade him to the other team, correct?
1) The club should be open about their roster construction priorities. They haven’t been. Don’t need names, just acknowledgement. We’re terrible at that
2) Are any of our homegrowns a Top 10 player at their position in MLS? Top 20?
1) nothing new. not sure why you'd expect more all of a sudden?
2) are any homegrowns on any other team in the league a top 10 player in their position? our homegrowns who would have been a top 10 player were already loaned or sold to europe. do dallas and philly have top 10 home growns? pretty sure they've sold theirs too.
Basically, yes. We hold his rights, which means that another MLS team can't sign him unless either (a) they acquire those rights or (b) an exception applies. Since Callens qualifies as a Free Agent, there is an exception for signing him up to the applicable limit. To sign him at a higher salary, they'll need to first acquire the rights from us.
Yeap. Sold theirs and brought through new ones. And outside of Justin Che, didn’t loan any of them out. Capitalized on their assets.
i don't see your point.
Dallas plays a bunch of home growns and hasn't performed well in the league for years now.
Philly has maybe 1 or 2 homegrowns on their squad. can't think of a single who was a starter this past season. how is this any different from us?
you're acknowledging they sold them. we've loaned and/or sold ours. our only issue is we don't lock down academy talent before they can run off to europe without getting us any benefit.
if you're trying to say they produce better players out of the academy then maybe. but this goes back to the argument that their academies have been around longer and have more established facilities. to that point, i'm confident the club will push more resources into the academy once the stadium stuff is done and dusted.
Over the past half-dozen years, NYCFC's academy has produced first team starters, first team backups and players on squads in Europe at a rate higher than the average MLS team - and that's despite the issues created by its relative youth and challenges with facilities. For this, the Club deserves a lot of credit.
There has been a noticeable drop-off in the last couple of years. Whether that's due to the natural ebb and flow of when talent arises or because of bigger, systemic issues is worth debating.
There has been a noticeable drop-off in the last couple of years. Whether that's due to the natural ebb and flow of when talent arises or because of bigger, systemic issues is worth debating.
The guys we’ve moved abroad didn’t start here.
Haak was the first U12 kid. I think he has a good future, but man is it bad behind him right now.
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